Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Asa Takii


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The result was   delete. I am discounting the opinion that accuses others of lying and cabalism, as it constitutes inappropriate conduct.  Sandstein  09:00, 5 December 2010 (UTC)

Asa Takii

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Nonnotable supercentenarian without reliable sources. See WT:WOP. More as needed. JJB 23:48, 27 November 2010 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Japan-related deletion discussions.  -- • Gene93k (talk) 17:45, 28 November 2010 (UTC)
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 * Delete. Not sufficiently notable to justify a self-standing biographical article. --DAJF (talk) 10:33, 30 November 2010 (UTC)
 * Keep the source seems to meet guidelines, shes a survivor of a notable event, as well as Japan's oldest person. Did I also mention that 114 is rare even among supercentenarians? Longevitydude (talk) 19:26, 2 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Delete There is only one source. The source starts out questioning the facts. It's very headline includes a question mark, and the "facts" about the subject are all cast as "XXX claims" or "XXX Says". Here 'tis, in it's entirety:

"Oldest A-Bomb Victim? Ms. Asa Takii, who resides at the Tachibana-En in Kurahashi-cho, recently became the oldest person in Japan. Now she is making preparations to apply for certification as an atomic bomb victim. Ms. Takii, who is 114, was 61 years old at the time of the atomic bombing. She said that on August 6, 1945, she was going about her household chores. As she was hanging some washing out, there was a big flash and the house collapsed on top of her. She was trapped for three or four days before being rescued. Her husband and family all perished in the bombing.

In principle, anyone who applies for certification as an atomic bomb victim must have at least two people to testify as witnesses, but this might be difficult in the case of Ms. Takii. However, a statement by the applicant can be accepted if witnesses cannot be found. An official of the relevant section in the Prefectural office said he hoped to visit the Tachibana-En in the near future and hold a hearing. The case worker at the old people's home said that she hoped that Takii San's status as an atomic bomb victim would be clarified. It was very rare for atomic bomb victims to live to such an advanced age and extremely rare for persons over 100 to apply to be certified as A-bomb victims."


 * Zero sources. Non-notable, hobbyist trivia/stubcruft. If there were reliable sources reporting the verbiage on the article page as fact, maybe I'd say it should be merged onto some list. But there's not. Survey says: Delete David in DC (talk) 21:20, 2 December 2010 (UTC)

Keep. Aside from the fact that the "zero sources" assertion is a lie, both JJBulten and DavidinDC have previously collaborated in an anti-supercentenarian cabal. Further, much of this is already being discussed (including standards for article existence regarding longevity). I find it unconscionable that one of the top-100 oldest persons of all time is even in this discussion, unless that person chose to remain anonymous. That is not the case here. This woman was Japan's oldest person, and was considered notable by the Japanese press, and even reported outside Japan. Ryoung 122 19:31, 3 December 2010 (UTC)

Weak delete She received more than the usual amount of news coverage about her death. However, to me this is still an example of WP:ONEEVENT and does not amount to notability, unless you consider a widely-reported death notice to meet the Wikipedia requirement of significant coverage by independent sources. --MelanieN (talk) 22:05, 4 December 2010 (UTC)
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