Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Aserrín Aserrán


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. This seems to be a case where WP:TNT applies. No prejudice against re-creation of a properly sourced article. Randykitty (talk) 13:22, 26 August 2018 (UTC)

Aserrín Aserrán

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WP:NOTWEBHOST failing unsourced textdump. It doesn't even tell who the author is. &raquo; Shadowowl  &#124;  talk  21:30, 4 August 2018 (UTC)
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 * Keep and improve. This song and rhyme and children's game satisfies GNG and OBK (as a pre-eighteenth century traditional rhyme). It is not surprising that it doesn't give the name of the author: This is a traditional folk song and they are often anonymous. It helps to know some Spanish when searching: for example try "Aserrín Aserrán"+canción or cantada or cantando as well as song or lullaby or rhyme or game and as well as a general search. The rhyme is "extremely popular": . The rhyme appears to have been anthologised many times. The rhyme seems to have spread throughout the entire spanish speaking world. I am tempted to compare this AfD to nominating "Pat-a-cake, pat-a-cake, baker's man" for deletion. Eastmain has added some sources to the article, and there are plenty more in GBooks and elsewhere that can be added. James500 (talk) 11:43, 5 August 2018 (UTC)
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 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, North America1000 07:13, 11 August 2018 (UTC)  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, North America1000 06:29, 18 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Weak Delete unless improved. This article is just the nursery rhyme itself, and is woefully inadequate as an encyclopaedia article which should be about the topic, not just contain the nursery rhyme. Therefore, currently, I see no actual content that should be in an encyclopaedia article and therefore there is nothing to save. The topic itself could justify an article, but this has not been written. If we actually look at Pat-a-cake, pat-a-cake, baker's man, then that page is infinitely better. I'm not sure that WP:OLDBOOK is the correct guideline to use, as this is not a book. I would believe that this topic would justify an article, but none of that justified article exists. I would be prepared to change my vote if there is some content to be saved, which at present I don't think there is. Ross-c (talk) 07:32, 18 August 2018 (UTC)
 * The answer to that is WP:SOFIXIT. This article is a valid stub on a notable topic. If we have a stub on a notable topic we expand it. We do not delete it because it is a stub. James500 (talk) 05:46, 19 August 2018 (UTC)


 * Weak delete No opinion on the notability of the topic or the potential that a worthwhile article could be written, but the article as it exists is nothing but unsourced speculation about supposed different versions, etc., which violates a whole bunch of our policies (not least, potentially, WP:PLAGIARISM, if it quotes, unattributed, someone else's "bowdlerized" version). Nothing here that could feasibly be preserved, so nothing to lose (and everything to be gained) by deleting. Hijiri 88 ( 聖やや ) 16:51, 19 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Comment Is this a case of WP:TNT? Ross-c (talk) 11:36, 20 August 2018 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.