Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Ash Bettridge


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   delete. -- Cirt (talk) 19:54, 8 June 2011 (UTC)

Ash Bettridge

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An account asserting they are the subject is requesting deletion and claiming the article is detrimental to his career and that he no longer wants a wikipedia BLP. There is also only minimal notability and limited external reliable sources that focus on the subject. This is a procedural nomination to complete the users attempted formatting and I personally am currently undecided. Off2riorob (talk) 15:39, 31 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Delete - the subject is of limited notability and the sourced version of the article, although neutral, is obviously causing the subject distress. As the subject has himself expressed a desire to have the article deleted, and content is minimal, I think it would be best to comply in this case. --Jezebel's Ponyo bons mots 16:33, 31 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Keep. The account claiming to be the article subject is the creator of the article, and the article has stood for several years. The article does not appear to violate any Wikipedia content policies, make disparaging references to the subject, or intrusively disclose personal/private information. The subject appears to meet the pertinent SNG. The content he's objecting to now appears to be nothing more than a depeacocked version of content the subject added to the article himself. In this context, the subject's claim of distress and "negitive" [sic] impact should carry reduced weight. This appears to be a subject complaining that he can't control his Wikipedia article and frame it to promote his current projects, and there's no reason to cave in to his demand. He's got access to Facebook, Twitter, etc and is already using them. Hullaballoo Wolfowitz (talk) 18:18, 31 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Which WP:SNG are you suggesting he leaps over - which is the main one here Notability (sports) ? As far as the request goes for the subject goes, we do not have OTRS confirmation for that, is a good faith position in regard to that request. Off2riorob (talk) 18:31, 31 May 2011 (UTC)
 * The motorsports section of Notability (sports) is very poorly written as it has been written exclusively from an American domestic viewpoint. Applying it to series outside NASCAR and Indycar requires interpretation. The relevant wikiproject has been discussing the issue and consensus is yet to be achieved. That having been said, the quality of results leads me to believe the subject fails notability regardless. --Falcadore (talk) 21:20, 31 May 2011 (UTC)
 * I was simply taking the descriptions by others editors like "minimal notability" and "limited notability" at face value; my experience has been that the phrasing indicates subject technically passes an SNG, though GNG coverage hasn't been specified. If he fails the SNG, then my argument isn't very relevant. I just don't think it's appropriate to accede to the wishes of any article subject who demands that their entry be deleted if they can't control its content. Hullaballoo Wolfowitz (talk) 21:40, 31 May 2011 (UTC)


 * Delete - currently his notability is minimal and there appears to be little reporting specifically about him and his life. A few races in what looks to be a a lesser level of championship. Little chance of creating any decent reliably cited life story. No objection after deletion to the creation of a redirect to his main notability which appears to be 2008 Australian Drivers' Championship or to a recreation if his notability increases. Off2riorob (talk) 18:41, 31 May 2011 (UTC)
 * delete zero hits in google.news or google.books except for wikipedia mirrors. the two current "sources" in the article seem far from "significant coverage" or "reliable sources with a reputation for fact checking and accuracy." Active Banana    (bananaphone  21:25, 31 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Delete. Neither of the cited sources actually discusses Bettridge- they are both simply appearances of his name on a list.  My search didn't yield any better sources.  With no reliable sources writing about him, there is nothing we can use to create a useful article. -FisherQueen (talk · contribs) 22:12, 31 May 2011 (UTC)
 * This AfD nomination was incomplete (missing step 3). It is listed now. DumbBOT (talk) 12:59, 1 June 2011 (UTC)


 * Delete I don't see notability here. There are a lot of drivers at his level, and he does not stand out from the crowd. Indeed, you could say on the evidence of Google that nobody is much interested in him apart from Mr Bettridge himself. --AJHingston (talk) 17:31, 1 June 2011 (UTC)


 * Delete - The subject does not meet WP:GNG as there is precious little coverage in reliable sources. As for meeting WP:NSPORT, and acknowleding that the criteria for motorsports is not well-developed, he does not make the grade as a race car driver.  Going by the general guidance that an athlete is notable when competing at the highest level of his sport, the racing series which he competes are generally considered entry level and far from the top level of motorsport.  This analysis stands regardless of the subject's desire with respect to the existence of an article about him in Wikipedia. -- Whpq (talk) 15:15, 2 June 2011 (UTC)


 * Weak delete. I find the notion that the innocuous factual information in this article is harmful to the subject to be quite ludicrous.  I know little about auto racing, so I will take the other editors at their word when they say that he was a minor non-notable sports figure.  Once strong notability standards are developed for international drivers the issue of undeleting/recreating this article can be taken up. Gamaliel (talk) 19:04, 2 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of People-related deletion discussions.  — -- Cirt (talk) 09:25, 3 June 2011 (UTC)


 * Delete - I typed his name into a search engine and came back with unreliable sources for birth date such as AskJeeves encyclopedia. Second of all, I suppose if the subject wants his entry to vanish, so be it. SwisterTwister (talk) 07:12, 6 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Delete - While the Australian Drivers' Championship is Australia's premier open wheel motor racing series, Bettridge has not driven a full season, and even then did not race in the outright division. That the subject of the article wishes the subject to be deleted is immaterial to the discussion. His achievements in domestic Australian motor racing do fail the notability test, and in truth the article should have been deleted when the subject created his Wiki-auto-biography. --Falcadore (talk) 09:15, 6 June 2011 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.