Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Ash Black Bufflo


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The result was keep. (non-admin closure) Extraordinary Writ (talk) 03:23, 3 July 2021 (UTC)

Ash Black Bufflo

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Non-notable musician. Within the references, all the mentions to them are trivial, typically mentioning their real name once in a listing of the members of the band being reviewed, or once when mentioning the composer for a movies score.

There is one reference that goes into a little more depth on Ash Black Bufflo/Jay Clarke, but even that reference is focused on an album they released, with the mentions of the musician being in passing - and it is a blog.

The references do support the band Dolorean being notable, but notability is not inherited, so they are not transferred to the individual.

A search for references outside the article turn up nothing, though searching the individual under their real name is made more difficult by the existence of the much more notable tennis player Jay Clarke. BilledMammal (talk) 02:46, 26 June 2021 (UTC)
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 * Withdrawn by nominator. Tomwsulcer and Walter have proven to my satisfaction that this ABB meets GNG, though only barely. BilledMammal (talk) 03:06, 3 July 2021 (UTC)


 * Keep An AllMusic biography, https://www.allmusic.com/artist/ash-black-bufflo-mn0002568313/biography and their sole album reviewed there https://www.allmusic.com/album/andasol-mw0002136073. Additional reviews https://alarm-magazine.com/2011/morrow-vs-hajduch-ash-black-bufflos-andasol/, https://www.wweek.com/portland/article-17494-album-review-ash-black-bufflo.html, an interview https://www.verbicidemagazine.com/2011/08/10/interview-ash-black-bufflo/, https://www.pdxmonthly.com/arts-and-culture/2011/07/ash-black-buffalo-july-2011 That feels like enough from a quick Google search. I'm sure that a more focused search on music sites will reveal more. Walter Görlitz (talk) 03:15, 26 June 2021 (UTC)
 * Good finds with the interviews; they didn't appear in my results - although are interviews considered independent for the purpose of WP:GNG? I think the allmusic biography is too brief to count as significant coverage, and the album reviews apply to the question of whether the album is notable, not the musician. BilledMammal (talk) 03:26, 26 June 2021 (UTC)
 * Keep Notable indie musician, with independent reviews as per above. He did the music for that weird film about a traumatized man who invented a toy village called Marwencol. He's married to a fellow musician and they get some coverage in Paste magazine. Also some coverage here and here. Overall, meets the general notability guideline, barely.--Tomwsulcer (talk) 10:55, 26 June 2021 (UTC)
 * I'm not sure any of those contribute to notability; the Paste magazine article only includes a passing reference to him, while the others are all reviews of works he did/contributed to, and don't contribute to his notability. BilledMammal (talk) 06:05, 27 June 2021 (UTC)
 * Sources conferring notability include this one and here and here and here. Plus there are two paragraphs about him (Jay Clarke) here so overall he passes the GNG, but like I said, just barely, so your AfD challenge is not unreasonable.--Tomwsulcer (talk) 18:57, 28 June 2021 (UTC)


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