Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Ashes fall


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The result was  d elete. - Mailer Diablo 08:54, 25 January 2007 (UTC)

Ashes fall

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''Ashes Fall are no strangers to on stage injuries or blood and sweat. . .'' But they are strangers to meeting the requirements of WP:N and WP:BAND. The article was tagged for notability earlier in the month and no notability information was added. They have a single EP and the article is full of POV phrases ("the band members "flail around" etc janejellyroll 00:15, 20 January 2007 (UTC)


 * Delete, no indication why this passes WP:BAND. Seraphimblade 00:23, 20 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete, page is just a cut and paste of their website. They could be a noteable in the future, but not at the moment. Neonblak 00:56, 20 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Comment You would be correct on that, good catch. I've removed the two paragraphs that were copyvios accordingly. Seraphimblade 01:09, 20 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete Does not, as yet, satisfy WP:MUSIC--Anthony.bradbury 01:12, 20 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete - does not pass WP:BAND.  Insane  phantom   (my Editor Review)  01:25, 20 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete fails WP:BAND. Arjun  02:32, 20 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete doesn't meet with WP:BAND, it's not neutral, and it's not verifiable to me. -- Tohru Honda13 Talk•Sign here 04:22, 20 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete per failing WP:BAND. Static Universe 07:23, 20 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete - per nom. Hate to jump on the WP:BAND wagon, but the group seems non-notable at this time.
 * Delete a single EP and a POV article is not enough to pass WP:MUSIC.-- danntm T C 17:06, 20 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Keep: One of their ex-drummers is now a member of Mortal Treason, who certainly appear to be notable. WP:MUSIC states- Contains at least one member who was once a part of or later joined a band that is otherwise notable; note that it is often most appropriate to use redirects in place of articles on side projects, early bands and such. as criteria for notability. J Milburn 18:42, 20 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete WP:MUSIC does not say that any band that ever featured anyone who went on to play in a notable is thereby notable, it says that this may be an indication that sufficient sources will exist. Aside from the fact that Mortal Treason barely passes WP:MUSIC, I could not find a single reliable independent source for this band anywhere on the internets, and that means policy says no article whatever guidelines might think.  The primary notability criterion is multiple non-trivial coverage in reliable independent sources.  I was not able to find any provably independent coverage for this band, trivial or not. Guy (Help!) 19:17, 20 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete per Guy. And that sentence that the nom listed sounds like something you would find on a fansite or theirs, or a newspaper article. --TeckWizTalk Contribs@ 21:54, 20 January 2007 (UTC)


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