Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Ashish Sinha


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The result was redirect to List of Bihar cricketers. Liz Read! Talk! 03:18, 5 December 2022 (UTC)

Ashish Sinha

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No general coverage. ESPC cricinfo is the only source provided, and other cricketing websites also have the same statistics as this. Per the stats, he played 2 matches in one tournament, and 2 in another. Bringing to AfD as a contested PROD. Jay 💬 03:59, 21 November 2022 (UTC) Relisting comment: Relisting this discussion as it has become a bit of a confused mess. The consensus is to turn this article into a redirect to List of Bihar cricketers but the nominator objects to that action as it could result in future action at RFD. However, they haven't put forward an argument for deletion either so I'm not sure what option they are arguing for. So, I hope this objection gets talked out over the next few days and this discussion can be closed. Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 04:00, 28 November 2022 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Cricket, Bihar,  and Jharkhand.  Jay  💬 03:59, 21 November 2022 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Sportspeople-related deletion discussions. North America1000 04:53, 21 November 2022 (UTC)
 * Redirect to List of Bihar cricketers per WP:ATD-R and WP:PRESERVE. There may be coverage in Indian sources and the article can be quickly restored from redirect if and when found. BcJvs  &#124;  talk  UTC 11:43, 21 November 2022 (UTC)
 * Redirect to List of Bihar cricketers Not sure why my redirect was reverted here. WP:ATD is policy here in situations like this. The subject likely fails WP:GNG but did play, and played the majority of matches for Bihar, so there's a suitable redirect. Rugbyfan22 (talk) 15:53, 21 November 2022 (UTC)
 * WP:ATD-R is why this article is now at AfD, as an inappropriate redirect. WP:PRESERVE suggests to do a lot of things, and BLARing the article is not one of them. This goes against what a redirect is for, and this as a redirect is a prime candidate for deletion at WP:RfD. Jay  💬 03:09, 23 November 2022 (UTC)
 * Redirecting to a suitable list has been the policy for articles like this since the WP:NSPORTS guidelines were updated, and even before that. There is nothing here to suggest that this is an inappropriate redirect. The subject existed, played games (which would have qualified him for previous notability when the article was created), and only played for that side. The list is a suitable redirect. Obviously it would be preferred if the lists had some biographical details of the players, but these can be added at a later date, and by redirecting, if sourcing is found, perhaps offline or in local language sources, the article can be restored. Rugbyfan22 (talk) 19:18, 23 November 2022 (UTC)
 * There are a number of sources as his games for Bihar were "interesting": Indian Express, Hindustan Times etc.... Whilst I'm not sure this is a case for keep, there's clearly some potential there for some sort of Wikipedia content somewhere or other. Given that the coverage is predominantly about Bihar, a redirect to List of Bihar cricketers is clearly appropriate, preferably with a note added. This is consistent with the consensus that has been developed over a long period of time where if there's an appropriate place to redirect to we do so. Blue Square Thing (talk) 10:50, 25 November 2022 (UTC)
 * Comment: I do not wish to convert this to a redirect discussion, we have WP:RfD for that. Redirection rules do not give perference to WP:NSPORTS guidelines, nor to particular sports bios. If the BLAR was to a suitable list, I wouldn't have brought this to AfD. From what I see, the suggested target list has entries with articles or redlinks, and Ashish Sinha, if redirected there, will be neither, and we can't have circular redirects. Jay  💬 15:07, 25 November 2022 (UTC)
 * A range of relevant arguments relating to redirection have been made at Articles for deletion/Jyothi Krishna (cricketer). Rather than repeat them here, perhaps the closer may want to check those. Blue Square Thing (talk) 08:53, 27 November 2022 (UTC)
 *  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Most lists I have seen are strict per WP:PEOPLELIST where editors choose even more stringent requirements, such as already having an article written (not just qualifying for one). If the cricket lists in general, and the editors at the Bihar one, allows for non-linked entries, then I have no problem with this being a redirect there. However, note that Ashish Sinha has no mention in the list, having with a bunch of others in 2020.  Jay  💬 07:33, 28 November 2022 (UTC)


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