Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Ashley Tesoro


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   keep. j⚛e deckertalk 06:08, 26 June 2014 (UTC)

Ashley Tesoro

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On notability grounds. The article relies on primary sources and appears to be nothing more than a biographical advert. Peter Rehse (talk) 19:17, 4 June 2014 (UTC)


 * Keep. This article should not be taken down. Though I did not create it, I have added content with proper reference and citations for my additions over the years. It has also been edited by other members of wikipedia over the years. On another note, I see that you have put up for deletion several articles that I have either created or significantly added to over the years. One or two times is a coincidence but four articles in a row is a pattern, and it makes me wonder if you are targeting articles I have been a part of for some reason? Tom Bloom (which I did not create), Anthony Tesoro, and Tesoro Ministry Foundation, were deleted after you recommended they be deleted. Why not recommend that they be edited for better neutrality or more references, why go straight for the delete. Now Ashley Cafagna (which I did not create either) who is a famous actress, which I have added information to from notable sources (newspapers, magazines, interviews, etc.) and you think it is an advertisement. Maybe all of your aikido articles and others Martial arts articles are advertisements too??? maybe they should be recommended for deletion too??? Please stop targeting my articles and see that they are restored so that I can help update them to wikipedia standards through helping make them more neutral and add additional citations. Don't just take them down. Thank you ILoveCountryMusic (talk) 02:04, 5 June 2014 (UTC)


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 * Keep. I'm not coming up with in-depth coverage, but being a regular cast member on multiple notable shows, and having multiple Young Artist Award nominations, appears to be enough to satisfy WP:ENT.  Gongshow   talk  04:58, 5 June 2014 (UTC)


 * Comment Could at least some references be incorporated into the article.  This article was a keystone article to a series of wall garden articles all of which basically referred to themselves.  To answer ILove above you weren't targeted - just one article led to another.  With this one I was nudged into AfD by another editors comments.  The article relies on primary sources (I don't see the newspapers, magazines mentioned) which is the main reason I submitted it to Afd although I additionally question the notability (famous?) of the subject.Peter Rehse (talk) 08:19, 5 June 2014 (UTC)


 * Comment In response to Peter Rehse; concerning the notability of this person, there are many people who would question the notability of Morihei Ueshiba because they have never heard of him or Aikido. Does that make him or his art any less notable? Soap Opera fans who number in the millions around the world think that Ashley (Cafagna) Tesoro and other actors and actresses like her are notable and worth mentioning in an article in Wikipedia. Concerning the secondary sources, you are correct that they do not appear on the article and I am not sure why unless they were deleted at some point. I will re-add them before weeks end, and hope that this will satisfy you and the other editors within the Wikipedia community. Thank You ILoveCountryMusic (talk) 06:30, 6 June 2014 (UTC)


 * Comment I took down the AFD yesterday but it is back up so I am obviously not "an experienced enough Wikipedian." I guess 7 years is not long enough to be experienced. The AFD summary includes as follows; "When an article is nominated for deletion, the Wikipedia community may discuss its merits for a period usually no less than seven days, in order to come to a public rough consensus about whether the article is unsuited to Wikipedia. Following seven days of discussion, an experienced Wikipedian will determine if a consensus was reached and will "close" the discussion accordingly." The discussion has been open for almost two weeks, The consensus is keep, someone should take this AFD down. PS I already added new secondary neutral sources of national and international article sources. ILoveCountryMusic (talk) 08:57, 16 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, NorthAmerica1000 10:28, 16 June 2014 (UTC)


 * Keep per the significant coverage in this article from the Ventura County Star and this article from soaps.sheknows.com. (http://soaps.sheknows.com/about/ indicates there is editorial oversight of soaps.sheknows.com's articles.) She also received coverage in this article from the Ventura County Star, though her husband is the article's primary subject. The coverage allows the subject to pass Notability, which requires "significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject". Cunard (talk) 04:20, 26 June 2014 (UTC)
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