Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Ashley Zais (2nd nomination)


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The result was merged/redirected to Mick Zais. (non-admin closure) ansh 666 05:26, 8 July 2016 (UTC)

Ashley Zais
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The previous debate closed as no consensus because no one commented on it at all. Basically we have as sources a press release from her college, and a note that she was hired as a minor worker in a political campaign. Neither of these provide passing GNG, one because it is from her college, the other because we do not even create articles on all political candidates, even presidential candidates, interim coordinaors at the campaign headquarters. Ashley's father Mitchell Zais, as a former US army general, and president of Newberry College, may well be notable, but Ashley is not. John Pack Lambert (talk) 18:37, 1 July 2016 (UTC)
 * Comment On further investigation we do have an article on Mitchell Zais, that I have no linked to, it just uses his nickname Mick. It is unclear to me in the article what his military title was when he retired from the military. It talks of his military career but was written because he served as Superitendant of Schools for South Carolina. The fact that Ms. Zais' father is not only notable but has an article but it was not linked to from this one shows the draw back of having lots of articles on non-notable people, they are extremely hard to maintain reasonably. The fact that her father was explicitly mentioned in one of the references makes me think the references were not adequately consulted in actually building the article and are mainly there to obscure the fact that this is a beauty pageant fandom page with minimal extra information.John Pack Lambert (talk) 18:45, 1 July 2016 (UTC)
 * Merge to Mitchell Zais. Keep the redirect.  IF she does more with her life, it will be easy enough to spin out a stand-alone article.   Montanabw (talk)  02:15, 3 July 2016 (UTC)
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 * Delete - Not seeing anything here outside of a 2007 Miss South Carolina USA beauty pageant title, which doesn't fulfill any Special Notability Guideline as far as I am aware. Fails GNG. Carrite (talk) 17:41, 4 July 2016 (UTC)
 * Comment: I boldly merged this article into Mick Zais.  If anyone has a problem with that, just revert.  IMHO, best not to have a redlink in the Miss South Carolina list, as that will just encourage the article to be recreated.  This way, should her career become more notable, the info exists to recreate the article from the redirect.   Montanabw (talk)  05:49, 7 July 2016 (UTC)


 * Redirect to Mick Zais § Family. A merge has already been performed by another user (diff). North America1000 00:18, 8 July 2016 (UTC)


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