Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Ashtown, Dublin


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The result was   Keep.  Jerry  delusional ¤ kangaroo 00:57, 29 December 2008 (UTC)

Ashtown, Dublin

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Many roads here lack pavements. I'm sure they do but that does not make it notable. A railway passes through the area. Does every square metre in the world that has a railway pass by occasionally get an article? Near a road that goes to Navan indeed you might say of all places. Says it all. There isn't even anything else worth mentioning in the article. The roads are bad, a railway goes through it (probably very quickly) and it goes to Navan. More likely it is notable as being an escape route from Navan. Balloholic (talk) 23:59, 24 December 2008 (UTC)


 * Keep Notable for its moss and much else besides. Colonel Warden (talk) 00:24, 25 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Comment. Where exactly is the connection with moss in that link? --Balloholic (talk) 14:13, 25 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep - it's a notable place. It's had its own railway station for more than 100 years. - Richard Cavell (talk) 02:31, 25 December 2008 (UTC)
 * As railway has been in existence for more than 100 years that is hardly a valid point. Lots of nooks and crannies have had railways for the same period and not much else. If each is notable it would seem to lower the overall notability of railways by suggesting that every single one is worthy of mention never mind the avenue where it is located. --Balloholic (talk) 14:13, 25 December 2008 (UTC)
 * question it is not clear to me  what the jurisdictional status of this & the other two locations might be: In terms of the Local Government Act 2001,  is it a "Town: The remaining town authorities, formerly known as urban districts or towns with town commissioners, were all redesignated as towns" that elects a Town council? If it has a Council of it's own, it is a separate jurisdictional unit, and intrinsically notable. Or is it a Local Election Area, which just elects a representative to a council? In  that case it probably would not be notable, unless there wa something special. It seems to be more than a mere  neighborhood, whose notability varies.  Is it a region known historically by the name, or a contemporary artificial construct?  It does not necessarily matter how good the roads are, or the other environmental factors; if it is, or is about to be, a separate jurisdiction, it is as notable as if it were a village geographically isolated separate from Dublin. If not, it depends. Not every p[art of a city where there is a railroad station is a separate locality, though most of them are. DGG (talk) 02:36, 25 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Ireland-related deletion discussions.   -- • Gene93k (talk) 09:23, 25 December 2008 (UTC)
 * It's not a separate village. The name Ashtown is relatively new as can be told by its components. Old Irish names don't tend to be composed of two English words, they tend to be translations of words like baile or rath. It is clear it is a newly expanded part of the city which thinks it has a bigger place in the world. --Balloholic (talk) 14:13, 25 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep as per everyone but the nominator. Edward321 (talk) 15:54, 25 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Comment. This is not a vote. A proper opinion is requested. It sounds like some sort of ganging up against the nominator. Don't follow the leader. --Balloholic (talk) 01:21, 28 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Comment Balloholic. Please do not strike out other editor's comments. Your feelings on whether or not their argument has validity is irrelevant. Leave it to the closing admin to decide whether or not to ignore them. Trusilver  09:39, 28 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Weak Delete Everything I've read about this suggests that it is a non-notable district of a larger, more notable region. I see nothing that warrants it's own article. Trusilver  09:39, 28 December 2008 (UTC)


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