Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Ashwant Dwivedi (2nd nomination)


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The result was delete. Deor (talk) 10:00, 15 July 2014 (UTC)

Ashwant Dwivedi
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Not notable. As per the last AFD, there are still no sources that show he was ever actually appointed as a consul, only ones that show a designate status. There are no significant new sources since that time, around 2008-2010, and he seems no longer to hold any form of diplomatic role. While there is news coverage about him, it is mostly minor stuff, as was noted at the last AfD. Sitush (talk) 16:31, 6 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Delete - Even as Consul would be a junior diplomatic function. Also looks like the cited news regard a one-time event. --Why should I have a User Name? (talk) 18:38, 6 July 2014 (UTC)


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 * Strong Delete - per nom. Evident from here that he never held any diplomatic title.  NQ    talk  01:32, 7 July 2014 (UTC)
 * delete fails WP:BIO. no notable achievements, ambassabador not inherently notable, consul general even less so. LibStar (talk) 03:03, 7 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Update I've just found this, which may be the same guy and shows him as Hon Consul for the Solomon Islands, rather than Fiji as has been claimed for years. However, given the source concerning the allegation of fraud, I'd rather see a truly official source. There is this but the security certificate is dodgy, with Chrome reporting "You attempted to reach owncloud.jeffwfranzke.tk, but the server presented a certificate issued by an entity that is not trusted". - Sitush (talk) 06:33, 7 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Delete Neither the coverage or the positions are sufficient to merit an article.John Pack Lambert (talk) 18:19, 7 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Delete I don't see anything indicating inherent notability, nor do I see sourced notability. --kelapstick(bainuu) 23:19, 11 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Comment This is a difficult nomination, because there are dozens of news stories by different news organizations about Dwivedi or that quote him substantially. However, the questions raised about Dwivedi's background/positions don't seem adequately addressed, and neither the government nor news organizations in Fiji seem like truly reliable sources. If sources like The Fiji Times, Fiji Sun, Fiji Broadcasting Corp, Fiji Live, Fiji Daily Post, or Radio Fiji could be considered reliable, I think the amount of coverage he's attracted would easily meet WP:GNG, but they just don't seem to take fact-checking seriously. In a 1999 libel suit against The Fiji Daily Post, in which Dwivedi was named as a defendant, the defendants didn't even show up. (Dwiveldi left the Daily Post to become editor of Prabhaat shortly before the May 2000 hearing). In 2007, The Fiji Sun ran an article both asserting that Dwivedi was the Fiji Consulate to Vancouver, while stating that Dwivedi denied that he was the Fiji Consulate, amidst complaints of fraud by Dwivedi for which they couldn't contact him for a response; later, the Sun continued to describe Dwivedi using a number of official-sounding titles to official-sounding organizations. In a 2011 letter to the editor published in The Fiji Times, a reader questioned the Times' description of Dwivedi as a former senior employee of the Fiji embassy in Canada, saying that there was no such embassy; the Times published the letter but made no response to it, and continued referring to Dwivedi with various official-sounding titles. The claims of Dwivedi as the Solomon Islands head of consular post in Canada (since last year's earthquake in the S.I.) seem similarly questionable, with the main indicator being a Consulate General of Solomon Islands to Canada website, but it's not clear that this is an official website; it may be a website Dwivedi convinced some students to make for free, for an organization and title he just invented. I'm not sure at what point we should simply trust these sorts of news organizations as having verified these things with the Fiji and Solomon Islands governments. Agyle (talk) 03:58, 13 July 2014 (UTC)
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