Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Asid bin Kurz al-Bajali


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The result was keep. Not sure why this was relisted a third time, consensus clearly is against deletion. Randykitty (talk) 09:17, 29 April 2021 (UTC)

Asid bin Kurz al-Bajali

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Not enough in-depth coverage to pass WP:GNG. Notability is not inherited.  Onel 5969  TT me 20:51, 29 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Islam-related deletion discussions. CommanderWaterford (talk) 21:11, 29 March 2021 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Keep I’d argue that as a Companion of the Prophet he’s inherently notable, and from memory we’ve kept articles about Companions previously at AfD. Companions are the most important source of hadith in Islam, and this one has eight sources. Mccapra (talk) 06:29, 30 March 2021 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Eddie891 Talk Work 00:37, 6 April 2021 (UTC)  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, North America1000 07:52, 13 April 2021 (UTC)  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Keep If this individual is mentioned in the Haditha then he should be treated as any other religious figure. It appears that the individual is documented in Muslim religious sources.  Are we going to start removing the names of minor Catholic saints next? Hyperion35 (talk) 17:45, 13 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Comment - I'm not sure that simply being a companion of the prophet is automatic grounds for notability, neither is being mentioned in the Hadith. There are plenty of characters mentioned in the canonical books of the Bible which are not considered notable enough to have their own article. Similarly, there are folks who met Jesus (which is the qualification for being considered a companion of the prophet), who do not have their own article (e.g. Bartimaeus, Jairus, although both of those figures are covered in articles about the major events they play in the NT). Onel 5969  TT me 21:18, 13 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Comment I’m not suggesting that being mentioned in Hadith is the basis of notability, but that being the source of the Hadith is. This guarantees ‘sustained coverage’ in works discussing the importance of the Hadith one has transmitted. I agree not automatic notability, but I’d be generally wary of deleting a companion. Mccapra (talk) 18:16, 15 April 2021 (UTC)
 * , hi - my Hadith comment above was directed at the second keep !vote. I appreciate your view on companion status, simply do not agree with it.  Onel 5969  TT me 19:42, 15 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Since there are sources at least mentioning him, I'd argue that redirect to List of Sahabah is more appropriate than outright deletion. --HyperGaruda (talk) 06:59, 17 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Keep The Companions of Prophet are considered notable, and since Mccapra has pointed out, "there'd be plethora of coverage" in the Hadīth literature. I tried searching online but Google gave me just multitudes of snippets from various books that I am not able to access. There is much more classical coverage offline. ─ The Aafī   (talk)|undefined  00:34, 22 April 2021 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Kichu🐘 Need any help? 15:55, 25 April 2021 (UTC)


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