Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Asif Ali (American football)


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The result was delete. Tone 14:14, 21 September 2018 (UTC)

Asif Ali (American football)

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Appears to fail WP:GNG where the only references that actually mention the subject are WP:PRIMARY (and one instance in a list stating he graduated high school, which is totally WP:NN). Also fails WP:NGRIDIRON by only playing in low level minor indoor leagues such as the AIFA. It states he played with the AFL's San Jose Sabercats in the "2010 season", however, this is clearly false as the team never played in 2009 and 2010. He was allegedly cut when the Sabercats rejoined the AFL, but even that I can find no sources for, just the subject's own statements. Everything in this article seems highly suspect and appears to be WP:PROMO. Yosemiter (talk) 18:17, 14 September 2018 (UTC)
 * Upon further investigation, this page was almost definitely an autobiography considering the same username (User:Kookface) uploaded CliffBranchandI.jpg and OmarSamhanwithUs.jpg labelled with Mr. Ali as "I" and "myself". Yosemiter (talk) 03:01, 17 September 2018 (UTC)
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This is a circus. You admins continue to nitpick for holes. Notability was clearly established when he was promoted to General Manager. You won't find sources for the Wolves or the Eagles because when the article was curated, the previous editors noted that the AIF sites were dead. Sure you can state the Sabercats claim is not referenced, but there were clearly references and sources for the other two AIF teams, which are professional Arena league franchises. Not to mention he is the first ever GM & Player of Pakistani descent. I really don't see why we keep going back and forth on this issue, there are far less notable players with articles and not once are they questioned for notability or accuracy of sources.

User:Kookface 14:15, 14 September 2018 (UTC)
 * keep !vote for User:Kookface added by User:Paulmcdonald as interpretation of comment.
 * 1: I am not an admin. 2: please provide WP:INDEPENDENT, WP:RELIABLE references of SIGNIFICANT COVERAGE. 3: just because something might be WP:TRUE does not make it Notable. 4: As I clearly stated, there are clear errors here (the Sabercats did not play in 2009 and 2010, so how could he possibly have played for them at that time?), so how do we even know any of his personal claims are true. 4: WP:PRIMARY references cannot be used to establish notability. 5: If there are less notable players lacking GNG sources, then those should likely be deleted as well. 6: Playing in the AIF/AIFA has no presumed notability. Dead links are not the issue as they would still be Primary. (Also, about half those teams seem to fail GNG due to insignificant independent coverage and many have been deleted. AIF players got even less coverage than teams, if any at all.) Yosemiter (talk) 19:32, 14 September 2018 (UTC)


 * Delete fails WP:NGRIDIRON. SportingFlyer  talk  06:04, 15 September 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete Lacks the significant independent coverage required to meet WP:GNG. The coming and going of indoor football leagues and teams is difficult to follow, but I don't think he's notable for that.  When in doubt I rely on whether or not the GNG is met. Papaursa (talk) 18:39, 16 September 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete does not meet WP:GNG or any other notability measure I can find. Normally players who only played at the community college level or coached as an assistant at that level do not generate enough press to pass notability, and the same is said for other indoor/minor league teams.  Although notability could be achieved by someone at that level, that doesn't seem to be the case here--at least, not for this encyclopedia.  Perhaps an online sports encyclopedia or almanac would be a better choice at this stage.  Try another wiki.--12:42, 17 September 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete. Not finding significant coverage in multiple, reliable sources, and thus unable to find that he passes WP:GNG. Cbl62 (talk) 01:23, 21 September 2018 (UTC)


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