Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Assad Al Hanini


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The result was delete. There is a consensus that this fighter does not meet our standards for inclusion at this time. Barkeep49 (talk) 16:22, 13 September 2020 (UTC)

Assad Al Hanini

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None of his fights have been in a top-tier MMA competition so does not meet WP:NMMA John B123 (talk) 21:29, 3 September 2020 (UTC)
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He’s a pioneer in the Middle East world of mixed martial arts and have fought in a top tier mma organization which is cage warriors as well as fighting in the top mna promotion in the middle east at that time Desert Force, and now working with Brave Combat federation of bahrain which is a huge company right now — Preceding unsigned comment added by 46.32.122.27 (talk) 20:38, 4 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete - meets neither WP:GNG nor WP:NMMA. Onel 5969  TT me 23:37, 3 September 2020 (UTC)
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 * Delete He has no top tier fights (Cage Warriors has never been that) and apparently (according to Sherdog) has never fought anyone who has ever won an MMA fight. He hasn't fought since 2011 and he's not close to meeting WP:NMMA.  Coverage is either routine sports reporting or passing mentions, like the one on his support for Brave's anti COVID-19 campaign.  So there's no evidence that WP:GNG is met. Papaursa (talk) 18:55, 5 September 2020 (UTC)

Yes, sure that but more importantly you’re forgetting the fact that he’s one of the pioneers of mixed martial arts in the middle east, which is a huge deal, as well as being one of first three arab fighters to fight in foreign companies, plus cage warriors is one of the biggest organizations in UK, with many fighters in the ufc, and also their fights on ufc fight pass, adding to that the role he has at brave cf is combined with management roles following with the shaikh, and the coverage done in some articles mentioned of him were done by Farah Hanoun, who works as a sports person for many outlets such as mmajunkie, making that sports coverage other than articles from arabsmma, mmaindia, tapology, fightinfo, and others.

Cheers mate. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ramongonsalis123 (talk • contribs) 22:26, 5 September 2020 (UTC)

A large number of fighters on wikipedia, were in a number of mma organizations that you don’t consider top tier, the likes of Giorgio Andrews, André Amado, Amir Aliakbari and a large number of others, but were somewhat pioneers or starters of mma trends in theri respective countries except Giorgio Andrews from that list — Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.173.231.71 (talk) 01:01, 6 September 2020 (UTC)

Keep as notability is met, amongst other factors Cheers mate. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ramongonsalis123 (talk • contribs) 01:33, 6 September 2020 (UTC)
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 * You might want to read WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS and WP:Arguments to avoid in deletion discussions which talk about why comparing articles to each other isn't a valid AfD argument. But I did look at the fighters you mentioned.  The Andrews article is tagged for questionable notability and a lack of significant independent coverage, Amado meets WP:NMMA, and Aliakbari won a FILA world wresting title to show notability.  This subject fails to meet any notability criteria.  It doesn't matter who wrote an article on him or who he works for because notability is not inherited. Papaursa (talk) 01:03, 8 September 2020 (UTC)

Hope you’re well, the comparing between articles wasn’t my comment that one someone else’s, Mine was the keep as notability is met was referring to my comment “ Yes, sure that but more importantly you’re forgetting the fact that he’s one of the pioneers of mixed martial arts in the middle east, which is a huge deal, as well as being one of first three arab fighters to fight in foreign companies, plus cage warriors is one of the biggest organizations in UK, with many fighters in the ufc, and also their fights on ufc fight pass, adding to that the role he has at brave cf is combined with management roles following with the shaikh, and the coverage done in some articles mentioned of him were done by Farah Hanoun, who works as a sports person for many outlets such as mmajunkie, making that sports coverage other than articles from arabsmma, mmaindia, tapology, fightinfo, and others.“ My argument was referring to the pioneers of the game in the middle east and having these organizations being top organizations in the middle east and one being a top one in UK.

Cheers mate. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ramongonsalis123 (talk • contribs) 09:17, 8 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete per WP:TNT, WP:SIGCOV, and WP:NOTRESUME. In 2008, this could have been forgiven, but everybody in 2020 knows we are not a LinkedIn nor do we publish essay-like biographies by his friend or agent. Please see the SPA's contributions. To claim that you didn't know the rules is insulting to the community. Bearian (talk) 19:37, 9 September 2020 (UTC)

Sir this page has been published in 2020, and I don’t know what exactly you’re talking about when you say essay like biographies, while being completely insulting myself or any other contributor to wikipedia, myself being a sports coverage person that had a lot of experience and exposure in the sporting events in the middle east especially Mixed Martial Arts, to vote for deletion is one thing, but that is not in any way a proper way to respond to my comments or any other comments put before by any contributor, I’m sorry to see this heading in another way, and seeing this a lot while putting info about figures in the middle east, getting these kind of responses that is out of context, due to lack of knowledge, lack of contributes from the middle east, or other reasons that I’m not aware of. Again some of the arguments made before were for the pioneers of mma in mena region whatever response you have I’m sure could be put in a better way and also more related to the subject. Again sorry this has taken so long

Cheers mate. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ramongonsalis123 (talk • contribs) 00:41, 10 September 2020 (UTC)

And again with all due respect beyond the insulting comment responding to me before, this is a case of notability and it being not a resume of someone. Cheers mate — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ramongonsalis123 (talk • contribs) 00:44, 10 September 2020 (UTC)


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