Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Assassination of Mehmet Baydar and Bahadır Demir


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The result was   redirect to Gourgen Yanikian. (non-admin closure)  TheSpecialUser TSU 00:56, 14 September 2012 (UTC)

Assassination of Mehmet Baydar and Bahadır Demir

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Fork of Gourgen Yanikian. All of the information in this article is already contained in the main one. --George Spurlin (talk) 15:19, 7 September 2012 (UTC)
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 * Redirect to Gourgen Yanikian as an unnecessary fork of that article. It might be a good idea for someone to create redirect pages to Gourgen Yanikian from the names of the victims, Mehmet Baydar and Bahadir Demir. I will create those pages, if this article gets deleted and nobody else has already done it. --MelanieN (talk) 20:01, 7 September 2012 (UTC)
 * Comment pro KEEP: So the first two Turkish diplomats killed by Armenian terrorism (I say so because the assassinations were just before the appearence of ASALA) should not have a separate article in WP but the assassin himself yes. "Interesting", to say the least... --E4024 (talk) 20:22, 7 September 2012 (UTC)
 * Keep, although the article is in serious bad shape, and needs improvement, AfD is not a replacement for improvement. The subject is notable, given the significant coverage it received at that time, and has been mentioned (but not significantly so) in books as well. Alternatively it can be summarized and merged elsewhere.--RightCowLeftCoast (talk) 08:38, 9 September 2012 (UTC)
 * Note: The crime is already summarized, in greater detail in fact, at Gourgen Yanikian. --MelanieN (talk) 13:55, 9 September 2012 (UTC)


 * Comment This is interesting: There used to be another article about the same assassination called 1973 Baltimore Hotel attack; it was redirected to Gourgen Yanikian in August 2012. (That article was actually mis-titled since the attack occurred at the Biltmore Hotel, not the Baltimore Hotel, but the redirect remains.) --MelanieN (talk) 13:55, 9 September 2012 (UTC)
 * Redirect to Gourgen Yanikian. While I think that Gourgen Yanikian should ultimately redirect to Assassination of Mehmet Baydar and Bahadır Demir as per WP:BIO1E, the subject material is currently best outlined in the former and that is where a discussion to rename should be held. Location (talk) 19:47, 9 September 2012 (UTC)
 * Redirect to Gourgen Yanikian. The proliferation of so many articles on this topic truly begs for some form of rubric for editors to go by. The creation of articles for the victim, the perpetrator, and the crime itself should be determined by the weight of importance of each. In this instance, all three can be subsumed into one main article (namely that of the perpetrator).--Marshal Bagramyan (talk) 19:43, 11 September 2012 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.