Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Association for Childhood Education International


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   keep. Beeblebrox (talk) 04:57, 12 February 2011 (UTC)

Association for Childhood Education International

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Non-notable organization. No independent sources can be found for this organization. Google search results all result in self-published business listings, Facebook pages, etc. WikiDan61 ChatMe!ReadMe!! 18:15, 26 January 2011 (UTC)

The organization listed was founded in 1892, and holds historical interest as one of the first professional organizations for teachers. Its historical importance is reflected by its significant collection in the University of Maryland archives, see http://www.lib.umd.edu/archivesum/actions.DisplayEADDoc.do?source=/MdU.ead.histms.0056.xml&style=ead. Through its work with The National Council for Accreditation of Teacher Education (http://www.ncate.org/MemberOrganizations/tabid/588/Default.aspx), ACEI helps set national standards for professional school personnel. Aceieditorial (talk) 18:47, 26 January 2011 (UTC)
 * From the article's creator:


 * Delete As I said on the article's talk page, I think this subject could potentially be notable based on a few minutes of noodling around, but this article reads like an advertisement and would require a complete rewrite to become encyclopedic. As such, it should be deleted, but I don't believe I would be opposed if a neutral editor rewrote it. Based on the author's username, it certainly appears to be written by a representation of the organization, which poses an obvious WP:COI. Zachlipton (talk) 19:00, 26 January 2011 (UTC)

* From the article's creator:

The entry has been modified to remove areas that may have read as an advertisement. It was modeled on currently active pages about similar organizations (see NAEYC article at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NAEYC), and was placed in response to inquiries about the historical/social significance.Aceieditorial (talk) 20:18, 26 January 2011 (UTC)  Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Ron Ritzman (talk) 01:11, 2 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Organizations-related deletion discussions.  -- • Gene93k (talk) 00:58, 29 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Comment This article is a long overdue creation pointing to an unfortunate lack of work by Wikipedians in a needed area; every one of the red links should have been made articles long ago. What a shame it had to surface in a period when there are many working to delete articles and far fewer obvious candidates left to delete. 5,690 Scholar hits, which for Scholar is a Leviathan. Most topics at AfD are lucky to get that in Google Books. As can be seen from the Google Books hits, ACEI are a creator of, for the purposes of the article, primary source material; that resource is clogged with their own publications. The Scholar resource, scholars that quote them or use them as citations, is a better bet for finding sources. Anarchangel (talk) 01:59, 9 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Keep per this Google News Archive search. See this article, this article, and this article from The New York Times. Cunard (talk) 23:57, 11 February 2011 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.