Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Assyrian Fascism



Assyrian Fascism

 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

Result: Delete (non-admin closure) as the article was POV, an attack page, and not sourced. Plus the article has already been deleted, but the discussion was not closed. Mr. C.C. Hey yo!I didn't do it! 18:11, 7 April 2010 (UTC)


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The topic may be legitimate, however the content appears to constitute largely of original research and personal commentary. It seems that the article was created with the intent to disparage the subject, rather than to provide objective, factual information. Also, there are no sources to substantiate the term 'Assyrian Fascism' Reconsider  !  08:08, 29 March 2010 (UTC)

Before you delete it
Dear Sir, Is it possible to keep a stub of this article? I admit that I haven't had the chance to present more sources; however, if you keep the stub, there could be others who can present sourced materials. If the objection is not on the title, please try to save it for a while. I am just too busy to do any thorough research. I know people who are actually writing books in the matter who might help improve the article.

Sincerely, --Tisqupnaia2010 (talk) 08:30, 29 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Delete As it stands, the article has no references that back up its assertions. The UN link refers to very generalised problems affecting all minority groups and does not appear to mention minority oppressing minority. Without such backup, the article can be taken to be Original Research. Books still being written are of no account, and their authors' possible contributions to this discussion would also be OR unless they could provide checkable references. 'Assyrian Fascism' occurs on Google in four hits - two being this article and a link to it, and in two forums (not reliable sources). As well as being OR, this article looks like an attack. "Is it possible to keep a stub of this article?" - it is possible (as also is a result to keep it), but I recommend deletion. If a properly sourced version can be created (when the creator is not too busy - I know the feeling...), it can be put on at a later date. Until then, there's not enough there (in my opinion) to merit status as stub. Peridon (talk) 11:31, 29 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Delete Is this a joke? If you are so angry about Chaldean Catholics being counted in the ACS people, discuss properly. Shmayo (talk) 15:22, 29 March 2010 (UTC)


 * Hello Mr. Shmayo (My dear Assyrian Fascist). Thanks for showing up so that Admins can look at your contribution to see at first hand what an Assyrian Fascist is. I am surprised that you sound polite here, but anyone looking back at your contributions will easily see what kind of Assyrian Fascists you're. Cheers--Tisqupnaia2010 (talk) 17:30, 29 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Tisqupnaia2010, regardless if he does this, please do not bring it up here - if it doesn't actually constitute a personal attack, it comes DAMN close. -- Dennis The Tiger   (Rawr and stuff) 15:56, 6 April 2010 (UTC)

You have to understand that some pro-Assyrians say all the people are Assyrian, some pro-Chaldeans say all the people are Chaldeans and some pro-Syriacs/Arameans say all the people are Syriacs/Arameans. There already exist an article about this; Names of Syriac Christians. Shmayo (talk) 14:54, 30 March 2010 (UTC)


 * Delete Per Peridon. Ravensfire ( talk ) 19:29, 30 March 2010 (UTC)


 * Rename to Assyrian extremism, because in contrast to "Assyrian fascism", there is some literature describing this: "Assyrian extremist", "extremist Assyrians", "Assyrian extremists". ܥܝܪܐܩ (talk) 00:09, 31 March 2010 (UTC)


 * Delete, This article consists of pure racism and is an offence to all Assyrians. It should immediately be deleted. --Yohanun (talk) 16:03, 31 March 2010 (UTC)


 * Comment Note to all: I understand that this is sensitive topic, but please remain civil and make your judgments based on Wikipedia policies and guidelines rather than personal convictions. - Reconsider !  06:15, 1 April 2010 (UTC)

I have a reliable source
I invite you to check the reference I presented regarding the term "Assyrian Fascism". This reference is taken from a reliable source, a popular website amongst Assyrians that is even defined in Wikipedia here. I am not the first to use this term, and this is not an Original Research. I am simply stating what Assyrians believe the term Assyrian Fascism implies. --Tisqupnaia2010 (talk) 00:24, 30 March 2010 (UTC)
 * It's a forum. See below about middleeastinfo link. Peridon (talk) 19:24, 30 March 2010 (UTC)

Yet another source
Check the second article I provided here that backs my definition and proves that it is not an Original Research. --Tisqupnaia2010 (talk) 01:08, 30 March 2010 (UTC)
 * No, it's a forum and therefore not a reliable source. Forums, blogs, aboutus and LinkedIn, and Wikipedia itself, are not accepted as reliable sources. Peridon (talk) 19:23, 30 March 2010 (UTC)
 * This AfD nomination was incomplete (missing step 3). It is listed now. DumbBOT (talk) 10:37, 6 April 2010 (UTC)


 * Delete no reliable sources (GregJackP (talk) 14:28, 6 April 2010 (UTC))
 * Delete. Whatever else you can say about this, it's an opinion page of original research, and even if there's a subject to write about here, this text would need to be replaced entirely: So far, Assyrian Fascists have been spamming the web with their lies. Their actions are identical to those of the Nazi Germans and of those of Saddam Hussein. Hatred toward these Assyrian Fascists have been accumulating, and their actions have been separating our people. However, their aggressive fascist views will be eventually known to the world. Just like the other fascists before them, Assyrian Fascists will seize to exist.  I prefer:  The Assyrian came down like the wolf on the fold, And his cohorts were gleaming in purple and gold; And the sheen of their spears was like stars on the sea, When the blue wave rolls nightly on deep Galilee. - Smerdis of Tlön (talk) 14:54, 6 April 2010 (UTC)
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 * Delete. This very much flies in the face of WP:NPOV.  Best to start over here and take a more neutral tone. -- Dennis The Tiger   (Rawr and stuff) 15:58, 6 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Escalating to speedy delete as attack page. No qualms if it doesn't go through. -- Dennis The Tiger   (Rawr and stuff) 16:21, 7 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Delete Not really sourced, its POV, its an attack page. Consensus seems pretty universal in this AfD. --Pstanton (talk) 21:03, 6 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Closing this discussion as the article has already been deleted.  Mr. C.C. Hey yo!I didn't do it! 18:11, 7 April 2010 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.