Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Assyrian International News Agency (2nd nomination)


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The result was   withdrawn. I was able to a find a ref to state the obvious about this org. Tijfo098 (talk) 16:26, 25 December 2010 (UTC)

Assyrian International News Agency
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Seems to be a non-notable "news" agency. Really, it seems more like a political outfit (see Assyrianism). The article lacks any secondary sources. Tijfo098 (talk) 06:29, 25 December 2010 (UTC)

Noting that a previous AfD on this exists where a block vote from WP:ARS appears to have taken place, I'll point out it was just ridiculous. Having a few passing mentions in The Christian Post, Crosswalk.com and similar outfits (United Press International --the new one-- says AINA translated a letter? OMG!) doesn't even come close to WP:N. I'd like to hear what editors not canvassed by the ARS rescue tag have to say. Tijfo098 (talk) 06:36, 25 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Keep and expand based on the number of incoming links. It is hard to find articles on news agencies since their own articles give so many hits. Try winnowing articles on any news agency and you will see the problem. --Richard Arthur Norton (1958- ) (talk) 06:58, 25 December 2010 (UTC)
 * So we should keep it "as is" because we can't find sources, despite the rather dubious NPOV and WP:N issues? Tijfo098 (talk) 07:01, 25 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Even their web site aina.org is extremely sketchy. Based on their services page it hardly appears to be a typical news agency. I cannot find any substantive "about us" type of info. Their contact page is a bare HTML form. They seem to hardly qualify as WP:RS for use in articles, never mind WP:N. I think WP:WEB is the more appropriate standard to hold this org to. Tijfo098 (talk) 07:19, 25 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Here's an excerpt from one of their "news" reports: Obama and Islam: Considering the long history of Islamic extremism, the militancy of Islamic religious texts, and the justification that such texts provide for modern jihadist movements, the president's fawning rhetoric may be confused for mere ignorance. But as David Horowitz and Robert Spencer forcefully argue in their new pamphlet, "Obama and Islam," Obama's Islamophilic outreach represents something far more disturbing than naïveté: a conscious effort to appease Islamic supremacism in Iran and elsewhere in the Middle East, and an energetic willingness to pander to the Islamic world in general. How many news organizations refer to Obama's "fawning rhetoric" as a fact? Maybe Fox News? Even for that one you'd be hard to pressed to find "news" like this. And I haven't even bothered with AINA's editorial's section, although they have that as well. This is precisely the issue with writng an aritcle with no independent coverage: you either have to take the primary sources at face value, or engage in WP:OR to write anything beyond a claque. Tijfo098 (talk) 07:32, 25 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Keep- Even if it is a political outfit as the nominator says, it should at least have a brief article on Wiki that indicates such. This kind of article and knowledge can be very informative to the reader.- KeptSouth (talk) 11:17, 25 December 2010 (UTC)
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