Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Asterisk (PBX)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was Nomination withdrawn. Thank you Mark viking, for providing first rate sources that establish notability beyond all doubt. What a pity that someone didn't do so in the two years when there was a tag asking for such sources. JamesBWatson (talk) 19:47, 29 May 2013 (UTC)

Asterisk (PBX)

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There is no evidence of satisfying the notability guidelines. Virtually all of the references are to asterisk's own web site, wikis, blogs, or press releases. (Tagged for primary sources for almost two years.) A PROD was removed, with "this software is used widely" as the reason, but that does not relate to Wikipedia's notability criteria. JamesBWatson (talk) 15:43, 29 May 2013 (UTC)


 * Keep I object. I'd prefer not to see this page deleted in the next week.  I've made some edits to clean out much of the cruft, but it's only a start.  Malcolmdavenport (talk) 16:40, 29 May 2013 (UTC)


 * Keep While the article could use some work and better sources, the topic seems highly notable. There are multiple books devoted to the subject:
 * Asterisk For Dummies
 * Configuration Guide for Asterisk PBX
 * Asterisk: The Future of Telephony
 * Asterisk 1.4 - the Professional's Guide
 * Practical Asterisk 1.4 and 1.6: From Beginner to Expert
 * Asterisk Hacking
 * Asterisk Cookbook
 * All of these books are by reliable publishers, so count as reliable in depth sources. "Asterisk PBX" gets 574 hits on GScholar. This is more than enough sourcing to pass general notability guidelines per WP:GNG and to build an article. The article itself has some cruft and needs to be based on independent sources. But these are surmountable problems, per WP:SURMOUNTABLE. A highly notable topic and surmountable problems suggest keeping the article. --Mark viking (talk) 17:08, 29 May 2013 (UTC)


 * Keep This is a really quick reply, Asterisk is a OpenSource product that is in constant development since 1999. This is just not someones home project. It is in use on 1 million systems in 170 countries and in use in many of the fortune 1000 companies. A few examples of larges orgs that use it are Yahoo, Southern Company (used for 911 services), University of Pennsylvania, Australian Government, British Telecom, Portugal Telecom, Canada revenue agency, Penn university, French Post Office, Amsterdam Government (Slide 8). Forbes has done an article about the product and the founder, they usually don't do things about unknown products. Basically its a well used product in industry, products such as Cisco Unified Communications Manager have an article, i can't see why asterisk would be another story. FreePBX, a product built on top of asterisk has had 5 million downloads and is estimated to be used on 500,000 active systems alone. Just because the product isn't backed by the reputation of companies such as Microsoft or Cisco along with a poorly written article does not make it not notable. In the event the article is saved i will work to improve it, i dont want to waste my time now ins case it gets deleted. Thanks --JetBlast (talk) 18:54, 29 May 2013 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.