Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Astrid Bryan


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   delete. Discounting IP comment. The comment by DIRTSA8032170 does not address our notability standards.  Sandstein  09:48, 24 May 2010 (UTC)

Astrid Bryan

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I searched and searched through the article, and though at first sight it might seem like she's notable (multiple sources, lengthy wording etc.), I didn't find any notability standard she could meet. The article needs a serious cleanup, and even if there's something notable about her, it should be written clearly and not shoved aside near unimportant details. Maashatra11 (talk) 09:05, 9 May 2010 (UTC)


 * Response to Maashara11; First, i would like to apologize for not responding earlier. We just received your message about possible deletion. We do not agree that Astrid Bryan does not meet the notability standard and would request you give us more time to respond. I will prepare a response to your post by Friday, May 14th, 2010 if that is OK. In the meantime, can you explain where notable items are "shoved aside near unimportant details". While your comment seems unnecessarily churlish, I am sure you did not mean to sound less than civil. However, your comment is contradictory (it implies that the article does indeed contain notable elements, but they are made less notable because they are near "unimportant details"). Such a comment cannot be a standard as millions of notable elements are in close proximity to what might be regarded as unimportant details. Unimportant details do not, under any circumstances, make notable elements less notable. Perhaps you could clarify your opinion and tell us which elements that you think are notable and how they are tarnished by "unimportant details". We will certainly consider re-writing the biography. Let us make an effort to correspond with civility; we would greatly appreciate it, and will return such kindness. Watleymusic(talk) 09:30, 9 May 2010
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions.  -- • Gene93k (talk) 15:58, 10 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Comment I've blocked the account above as it appears to be a group or company account, and added a COI tag as the article was created by Watley Music. If there is just one individual editing then they can create a new account. and other sites show a clear connection. Dougweller (talk) 12:37, 11 May 2010 (UTC)

Response to Dougweller (talk) I would like to apologize for this misunderstanding but there is just one individual editing this article. 02:28, 14 May 2010 —Preceding unsigned comment added by DIRTSA8032170 (talk • contribs)  Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Ron Ritzman (talk) 00:02, 16 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so consensus may be reached.


 * Delete The sources are not there to establish notability, just that her picture has been in some magazines but not enough to write an article on her. Steve Dufour (talk) 08:18, 16 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Comment Response to Steve Dufour (talk) I do not agree. Astrid Bryan is not just a model. She is also an artist who has an album . She is notable enough for an article. DIRTSA8032170 (talk) 08:41, 16 May 2010
 * Not notable under notability criterium #5 (Has released two or more albums on a major label or one of the more important indie labels (i.e., an independent label with a history of more than a few years and a roster of performers, many of which are notable). Unimportant label & less than two albums.--Maashatra11 (talk) 11:52, 17 May 2010 (UTC)


 * Keep Article is notable enough.Composed and co-wrote the song You Know I Would  together with producer Peter Rafelson and is used for the soundtrack of the movie  The Pool Boys 6:45, 17 May 2010  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.173.234.82 (talk)
 * — 76.173.234.82 (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic. IP also removed COI tag, categories, and hidden comment saying "Please do not remove or change this AfD message until the issue is settled". Dougweller (talk) 08:31, 18 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Delete The article has lots of sources, but none of them appear fit the WP:N requirement of being reliable and independent. If someone can point out some reliable, independent sources that are actually about her, I'll happily reconsider. Yilloslime T C  05:11, 24 May 2010 (UTC)
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