Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/At Boshoff


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The result was delete.  Sandstein  16:51, 14 March 2018 (UTC)

At Boshoff

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Seems to be promotional. Very little information found in a quick Google search. Welcome opinions. PabloMartinez (talk) 16:44, 27 February 2018 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of People-related deletion discussions.  MT Train Talk 16:50, 27 February 2018 (UTC)
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At Boshoff is the founder and pastor of the largest and fastest growing Christian church in South Africa with churches in over 90 cities and an international movement in multiple countries. He speaks regularly in conferences and some of the largest churches around the world. I agree that the article is very flimsy at the moment, which is why I have started editing it. I will keep editing and cite relevant sources over the next couple of days. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mvnrsa (talk • contribs) 16:53, 27 February 2018 (UTC)  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * POssible Keep but tag for improvement. If Mvnrsa is correct, he is certainly notable, but Mvnrsa implies he is the head of a denomination, whereas the article calls him a board member.  The head of a denomination would be the equivalent of a bishop, whose article we normally keep.  On the other hand, typically the pastor of a local church is NN.  I lack the knowledge to say which side he falls on.  Peterkingiron (talk) 15:29, 4 March 2018 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, J04n(talk page) 14:55, 7 March 2018 (UTC)
 * leaning delete Besides being painfully difficult to search, the hits I'm finding are pointing towards the notability of his church(es), not him, and the one hit that had any biographical detail was an "about our speakers" blurb, which is obviously neither neutral nor independent. If there were an article on the church I would say merge/redirect to it, but there doesn't appear to be such an article. Mangoe (talk) 17:22, 7 March 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete senior pastor at a non notable church does not make someone notable. It seems there are mentions of him in relation to the church, but no significant coverage. Burroughs&#39;10 (talk) 22:03, 13 March 2018 (UTC)


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