Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Athens Rising: The Sicyon Project: Volume One


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The result was delete. &spades;PMC&spades; (talk) 09:32, 11 November 2018 (UTC)

Athens Rising: The Sicyon Project: Volume One

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Fails WP:NFILM the project is in actual fact a moneymaking scheme to promote local bands. On the director's facebook page [] he describes it as "Providing bands with an affordable way to capture and share their most valuable asset - the experience of their live performance." So we can deduce that the featured artists paid to be filmed and this page is most probably a WP:COI effort to promote his business. The flagpole articles look to be part of the promotional effort as are the other sources mostly blogs. Dom from Paris (talk) 13:28, 2 November 2018 (UTC)
 * I would say to go through this process based on the standards. Don't post people's private Facebooks. I saw the film and made the article. I have no association with the director and was not consulted by anyone about it. It does not meet the standards as discussed in the Linqua Franqa article and this article can be deleted. I just feel very uneasy about people privately being slandered through this process with false accusations. If that's the standard on Wikipedia I don't want to be associated with it anymore.E6fanatics (talk) 14:08, 2 November 2018 (UTC)
 * Facebook is not private at all this is the information available for all to see without even having an account and is clearly information he wishes to communicate publicly. Slander is when a false statement is made with the intention of damaging somone's reputation. As you have confirmed the information comes from the director's own page and facebook can sometimes be used as a relibale source as per WP:FACEBOOK. Please note that suggesting that another editor is being slanderous can be taken as a WP:LEGAL THREAT and claiming I am making false accusations is very dodgy as I have specifically added the source for my comment which is not an accusation at all as there is nothing wrong with making promotional films. --Dom from Paris (talk) 14:30, 2 November 2018 (UTC)


 * Ok, not slander, so I'll rephrase and retract. I would argue "...the project is in actual fact a moneymaking scheme to promote local bands.". I really don't like where that is headed. The film is about the arts. It was funded by the Athens Clarke County Economic Development Department, so it was a film made with an arts grant. He may film bands, but the film itself was not some sort of demo reel. Like I said, I don't like where it's headed and I'm at the point where I just want my articles gone because debating with admins has dragged others through the mud unintentionally. I just don't believe it is fair to the people I am writing about because I'm a fan of what they're doing.E6fanatics (talk) 14:42, 2 November 2018 (UTC)
 * Please don't forget that the project is intimately linked to LiveSyphon which is the director's production company for producing promo films for bands as per the multiple mentions on the Athens Rising facebook page. If he is suggesting that Athens Rising is an affordable way of promoting a band on his public profile then there doesn't seem to be any dragging through mud as he is openly saying it in public. Also please do not forget that we do not WP:OWN the articles we write and sometimes as per WP:PROUD having an article on wikipedia is not always a very good idea for a person or a company as anyone can edit and add stuff even if it is not positive so long as it is correctly sourced. Wikipedia is not a fansite either. Dom from Paris (talk) 15:51, 2 November 2018 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Film-related deletion discussions. Dom from Paris (talk) 13:29, 2 November 2018 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Music-related deletion discussions. Dom from Paris (talk) 13:29, 2 November 2018 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Georgia (U.S. state)-related deletion discussions. Dom from Paris (talk) 13:29, 2 November 2018 (UTC)


 * Delete largely per nom but also the utter failure to meet WP:GNG and inability to properly source this. Praxidicae (talk) 14:52, 2 November 2018 (UTC)

You can go ahead and just delete it through speedy deletion.E6fanatics (talk) 14:58, 2 November 2018 (UTC)


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