Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Atisone Seiuli (2nd nomination)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was Delete and salt. There are two reasons for closing this early. It is a snow deletion, with two AfDs in which every single participant has been in favour of deletion of the article. (The fact that one person also suggested having a redirect under the same title does not diminish that.) It is also a speedy deletion as an attack page. The article contains allegations of criminal actions against a living person, without any reliable source. That is a clear violation of Wikipedia's policy on biographies of living persons, and since the ostensible subject of the article is an obscure person of no notability, while the person against whom those allegations are levied is a prominent person, that negative unsourced BLP aspect is the principal, almost the only, effective purpose served by the article. The last AfD closed as delete and redirect. (The closing statement does not mention the deletion, but that is what the closing admin did.) I see no merit in the redirect. There was no consensus for it in the previous AfD discussion, with only one person suggesting it, and there was then and still is now no mention of the subject of the article in the redirect target either. I am therefore closing this as a straight deletion, and I shall also protect the article title against re-creation. The editor who uses the pseudonym "JamesBWatson" (talk) 09:51, 3 March 2014 (UTC)

Atisone Seiuli
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Delete as an unsalvageable WP:BLP violation. She's only notable for one event, but unfortunately she's dead so WP:BLP1E doesn't really apply. But her famous car-mate is not dead and WP:BLP applies full-on. The whole article is innuendo, suspicion, and sourced to sites which are not WP:RS for such claims as murder conspiracy and what may or may not have transpired. About the only source with content other the coverage of the WP:BLP1E incident is http://assofias.webs.com/formertitleholders.htm which is probably not a WP:RS. (This rationale lightly edited from the previous rationale). Kaimahi (talk) 06:44, 3 March 2014 (UTC)


 * Speedy delete. I created this article (or rather turned it from a redirect into a stub) because it was nominated at RfD with the mention that there was no information at the target (Eddie Murphy]). Deliberately i did not look at or modify the Murphy article but created the stub from online sources, two of which I would regard as WP:RS}}. But I don't believe this person is [[WP:N and it is WP:NOTINHERITED and not WP:GNG. If there is a BLP violation (as I say I have deliberately not looked at the Murphy article) then it should go speedy; I could of course SPEEDY it myself as author but the whole point of my creating the stub was so that other editors could actually see what the problem was and have their opinion. (I didn't create the redirect, I turned the redirect into a stub.) Something should be said about these allegations at Murphy's article but I tried to exercise due care in not violating BLP; but this person is not notable in himself. (He was male on his death certificate, by the way, which is why I refer to him as "him".) Si Trew (talk) 07:20, 3 March 2014 (UTC)


 * Speedy delete. I don't understand the logic of having this article, and alleging that Murphy had people killed (sourced to this) is outrageous. Sportfan5000 (talk) 07:27, 3 March 2014 (UTC) [WP:Ban 04:18, 25 March 2014 (UTC)]


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.