Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Atmospheric Jellyfish


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The result was   delete. Tone 21:03, 9 January 2009 (UTC)

Atmospheric Jellyfish

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The article seems to be original invention. It has no reliable references, and I can find none online: A Google search returns only 23 mentions (169 including duplicates and such), primarily forum threads, wikis, and blog entries (several citing this article). A Google Books search finds no mentions. A proposed deletion was [ removed] along with the cleanup tags. — {admin} Pathoschild 22:06:09, 04 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete Nonsense and original research, lacking any reliable references to satisfy verifiability. They "go against all the usual rules that are applied to living things." Indeed. Extreme claims with no shred of proof. Edison (talk) 23:07, 4 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Paranormal-related deletion discussions.   -- Raven1977 (talk) 01:13, 5 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Could be something along the lines of flying rods, but I'm not really getting any strong indications that this is a widely recognised fortean phenomena or of Robert Gardners work in Cryptozoology, so delete until sources can be found to confirm it. Firming up what exactly Charles Fort said and whether he used the term might help also. Artw (talk) 17:39, 5 January 2009 (UTC)
 * comment the general accepted term for phenomena of this type are Atmospheric beasts - the article in that namespace has been deleted, but there probably should be one, and if so reports of flying jellyfish would definately warrant a mention. Artw (talk) 18:54, 5 January 2009 (UTC)
 * I'm fairly sure that Atmospheric Jellyfish appear in a short story by Arthur Conan Doyle, The Horror of the Heights . I'm not sure he uses that particular phrase, however. Richard Hock (talk) 14:51, 6 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Yes, jellyfish-like monsters are described in The Horror of the Heights by a fictional aeronaut exploring an ecology in the air which he calls an 'air-jungle'. (He also braves hail, wind-rivers and tourbillons, meteors, air-serpents, and purple amorphous predators who presumably consume him in the end.)
 * "Suddenly I was aware of something new. The air in front of me had lost its crystal clearness. It was full of long, ragged wisps of something which I can only compare to very fine cigarette smoke. It hung about in wreaths and coils, turning and twisting slowly in the sunlight. As the monoplane shot through it, I was aware of a faint taste of oil upon my lips, and there was a greasy scum upon the woodwork of the machine. Some infinitely fine organic matter appeared to be suspended in the atmosphere. There was no life there. It was inchoate and diffuse, extending for many square acres and then fringing off into the void. No, it was not life. But might it not be the remains of life? Above all, might it not be the food of life, of monstrous life, even as the humble grease of the ocean is the food for the mighty whale? The thought was in my mind when my eyes looked upwards and I saw the most wonderful vision that ever man has seen. Can I hope to convey it to you even as I saw it myself last Thursday? "Conceive a jelly-fish such as sails in our summer seas, bell-shaped and of enormous size—far larger, I should judge, than the dome of St. Paul's. It was of a light pink colour veined with a delicate green, but the whole huge fabric so tenuous that it was but a fairy outline against the dark blue sky. It pulsated with a delicate and regular rhythm. From it there depended two long, drooping, green tentacles, which swayed slowly backwards and forwards. This gorgeous vision passed gently with noiseless dignity over my head, as light and fragile as a soap-bubble, and drifted upon its stately way.  "I had half-turned my monoplane, that I might look after this beautiful creature, when, in a moment, I found myself amidst a perfect fleet of them, of all sizes, but none so large as the first. Some were quite small, but the majority about as big as an average balloon, and with much the same curvature at the top. There was in them a delicacy of texture and colouring which reminded me of the finest Venetian glass. Pale shades of pink and green were the prevailing tints, but all had a lovely iridescence where the sun shimmered through their dainty forms. Some hundreds of them drifted past me, a wonderful fairy squadron of strange unknown argosies of the sky—creatures whose forms and substance were so attuned to these pure heights that one could not conceive anything so delicate within actual sight or sound of earth.
 * — {admin} Pathoschild 18:42:01, 06 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete Without any secondary sources it is impossible to say if this is just on-wikipedia synthesis or outright hoax. Abecedare (talk) 02:30, 9 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete - this article is essentially original research, and has a severe lack of reliable sources. Terraxos (talk) 02:38, 9 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep - Article is most certainly not original research. Any reasonably well-read Cryptobiologist will direct you to Ivan T. Sanderson's Uninvited Visitors (1967) or Trevor J. Constable's Sky Creatures, aka The Cosmic Pulse of Life (1978) for demonstrated notability. DrJon (talk) 03:20, 9 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Going by Google books neither seem to include direct references to "atmospheric jellyfish" or "atmospheric beasts" - that's really what is needed. However adding them as cites, with decent quotes, couldn't hurt if you have access to them. Artw (talk) 06:37, 9 January 2009 (UTC)


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