Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Atomic Opera


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.  

The result was keep. --Wafulz 05:04, 6 April 2007 (UTC)

Atomic Opera

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non notable christian rock band. a couple of indie records, but no singles, article notes that band "broke up after struggling to gain mainstream popularity" indicating it fails WP:BAND. Also is completely unsourced, so violates WP:A &rArr;    SWAT Jester    On Belay!  18:31, 23 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete, and bundle with  No notability established. Both seem to only have redlinks (the blue ones for the album are all for different people with the same name.) Bobanny 19:00, 23 March 2007 (UTC)


 * STRONG DELETE - not notable and probably self-promotional. Ward3001 22:13, 24 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete as it's not yet a suitable subject for wikipedia. Mr. Berry 23:32, 25 March 2007 (UTC)
 * KEEP there are too many examples of rock bands inside of wikipedia so there is precedence. Kemper Crabb and Frank Hart are ICONS of independent Christian rock music.  Atomic Opera often perfomed with the likes of Galactic Cowboys and King's X.  Just because some people apparently don't like them is NOT a good reason to remove the information.  Unless wikipedia is about censorship (??) —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Cjcox (talk • contribs) 07:16, 28 March 2007 (UTC).  — Cjcox (talk&#32;• contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.
 * KEEP Just because they broke up once before does not make them a candidate for deletion. They did reconvene and are still an active band.  I went through and removed the "red links" that were another person's argument for deletion.  And what does "Delete as it's not yet a suitable subject for wikipedia." mean?  Please be more specific than that, Mr. Berry. Also, the citing of WP:BAND in the original argument is bogus, due to "Please note that the failure to meet any of these criteria does not mean an article must be deleted".  Also, to Ward3001, the article isn't self-promotional, as I wrote most of the content originally, and am not affiliated with the band. Also, the article is no longer unsourced as multiple references have been included. Dlwhiteman 15:47, 28 March 2007 (UTC)
 * KEEP Those reasons for deletion are pathetic. The band is still around and all the members are making music.  Just because some people don't know that doesn't mean this should be deleted.  -JJ —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 161.253.143.229 (talk) 15:30, 28 March 2007 (UTC).  — 161.253.143.229 (talk) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.
 *  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so that consensus may be reached  Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Krakatoa  Katie  02:03, 30 March 2007 (UTC)


 * Keep This band has a long history, and it seems to be fairly notable - "Atomic Opera" and "Christian" generates 18,600 ghits, most of which seem to be the band. It isn't hard to find multiple reviews of their work online, and interviews; there seems to be a lot of interest in their work, especially in Christian rock circles. Brianyoumans 02:24, 30 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Very weak keep. A perusal of the first couple dozen ghits seems to confirm the bands very minor notability, just barely enough to avoid deletion I think.  Ford MF 06:44, 30 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Question Can any of the keep voters explain how this fulfills WP:MUSIC criteria? - Mgm|(talk) 12:04, 30 March 2007 (UTC)
 * This article is now properly referenced. Dan, the CowMan 03:18, 1 April 2007 (UTC)


 * Delete. I am unconvinced that there are any non-trivial published sources about this band, and as such fails the primary criterion of WP:MUSIC.  All the stuff I can find on them is either from blog, directories and the like - nothing from an independent source to support the idea that this band is notable enough for inclusion.  A r k y a n  &#149; (talk) 15:26, 30 March 2007 (UTC)
 * I hope you now see that there are. Dan, the CowMan 03:18, 1 April 2007 (UTC)


 * Keep. Meets central criteria of WP:MUSIC: "has been the subject of multiple non-trivial published works whose source is independent from the musician/ensemble itself and reliable." Also meets criteria #3 "national concert tour in at least one large or medium-sized country, reported in reliable sources" for touring with Dio. Note that the usage of the term "mainstream" from Swatjester's nomination refers to Rock radio outside of the Christian rock realm. The stuff that's played on most rock stations throughout the United States. It is possible for an artist to be notable in the Christian realm without success in "mainstream" music. The artist has a biography on All Music Guide |OPERA&sql=11:gxfixqe5ldde~T0. RoyalbroilT : C 20:20, 30 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Keep. Despite my immense distaste for the genre, it looks like it meets the multiple non-trivial standard. Ab e g92 contribs 11:58, 31 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Keep - This article is now properly referenced, meeting WP:MUSIC. Dan, the CowMan 03:18, 1 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Keep per Dan, the CowMan. GreenJoe 19:45, 2 April 2007 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.