Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Attacks on nonconformists and alternative lifestylers


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The result was delete. Rlendog (talk) 02:26, 18 September 2011 (UTC)

Attacks on nonconformists and alternative lifestylers

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I was originally for this article. However, the topic has very few sources and is wrongly categorized as discrimination. It is trying to push a POV that attacks on certain subcultures are discrimination. I have informed the author that comparing it to forms such as Racism, Sexism, or Homophobia is not appropriate because that these are unchosen facets of one's self and that comparing it to religious discrimination, classism, adultism, or weightism would be more appropriate since these are possible (although sometimes difficult) to change. The fact of the matter is that these subcultures are chosen. An article about bullying againist these groups is definatly appropriate but it should not be considered discrimination with the above circumstances not addressed. Not to mention as stated before the name is extremely unencylopedic. Rainbowofpeace (talk) 03:31, 1 September 2011 (UTC) (Note I completed the deletion request procedure laid out at WP:AFD, which had not been followed initially. Hekerui (talk) 20:33, 10 September 2011 (UTC))


 * Delete The first paragraph of the article falls under "original theories and conclusions" as synthesis from reports of specific attacks (albeit from reliable sources). The topic itself, which is very specific, should be proven notable, which didn't happen. The little there is in that paragraph is also forky to goth subculture and punk subculture. The rest is merely two specific accounts of violence, which don't directly contribute to an overall understanding of the topic of violence. The article style is unencylopedic and the questionable title makes me doubt this could be salvaged at all. Hekerui (talk) 20:33, 10 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Crime-related deletion discussions.  — • Gene93k (talk) 21:06, 10 September 2011 (UTC)


 * Delete Original research about a huge category of human behavior, poorly defined, with two overly detailed examples that are already covered elsewhere in Wikipedia. People have attacked nonconformists for millennia; the hostility toward Jesus and his followers could be included in this category, as could the historic intolerance toward Jews and Roma, as could the "witchcraft" prosecutions of early American history, as could .... well, you get the idea. If punks and goths think there is something unique about their persecution for being "different," they need to read a little history. --MelanieN (talk) 21:12, 17 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Delete a collation of a wide smattering of WP:SYNCurb Chain (talk) 23:20, 17 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Delete. This article can be divided into three parts- the lead and the two murders. The descriptions of the two murders takes up most of the article, even though they should be- and are- covered in the articles about the murders themselves. The lead is just a synthesis of news articles about specific attacks, which I'd call original research. I'll say that maybe the topic deserves to have an article, but I'll also say that this isn't the way to go about making it.--Slon02 (talk) 23:40, 17 September 2011 (UTC)


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