Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Aubrey K. Miller


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The result was delete.  MBisanz  talk 03:36, 18 July 2016 (UTC)

Aubrey K. Miller

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Failed BLPPROD and PROD. Child actress fails WP:NACTOR, and certainly fails WP:GNG (no in depth independent coverage). --IJBall (contribs • talk) 02:54, 7 July 2016 (UTC)
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 * Delete - According to listing on IMDb has only one significant role in Just Add Magic  and guest or co-starring roles in other series. WP:NACTOR requires "significant roles in multiple notable films, television shows, stage performances, or other productions" which she does not have. WP:GNG, which could override NACTOR, requires "significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject" and all I can find in a basic search is passing mentions in articles about the shows she is in and interviews mostly talking about her characters. I couldn't find anything that had significant coverage of her as a person. I'd say WP:TOOSOON but probably worth giving it some time to see if GNG references can be found. Geraldo Perez (talk) 03:20, 7 July 2016 (UTC)
 * Keep As much as I am unimpressed with what we have, I think she passes the notability guidelines for actresses. I have found sources that cover her in ways that suggest that her role in Just Add Magic is so important and defining that she passes the notability threshold just on that. True, they are vacuous and hard to read if you hate vacuous writing, but she does get coverage. In 2016 a 36-minute long work entitled Wordplay was released, where she appears to have had the main role, or at least is listed first on the IMDb entry on it. We lack an article on the work, but that does not mean it is not enough to put her over the top. There is also the film Little Savages released earlier this year. We appear not to have an article on it, but I have found reviews, and Miller was in a role that got her listed on a cast list that had a total of 7 people.John Pack Lambert (talk) 03:36, 7 July 2016 (UTC)
 * WP:NACTOR says "Has had significant roles in multiple notable films, television shows, stage performances, or other productions." (emphasis mine) Even if you are claiming she passes the former (and I don't agree – Just Add Magic is really her only "significant" role, and even there she's a co-lead...), I don't think you can really say they she passes on the latter (e.g. "notable films, television shows") for the very reasons you outline. More to the point, there's the larger WP:GNG issue – she simply has had no significant independent coverage. --IJBall (contribs • talk) 04:53, 7 July 2016 (UTC)
 * My argument is that Just Add Magic and Little Savages are enough to establish multiple, significant roles. We do not need an article for something to be notable, Little Savages is notable, we just lack an article, and here role is clearly "significant" in that and in Just Add Water.John Pack Lambert (talk) 19:26, 10 July 2016 (UTC)
 * On what level is Little Savages notable? There are literally zero reviews of it at Rotten Tomatoes. It has gone utterly unnoted. --Nat Gertler (talk) 19:47, 10 July 2016 (UTC)
 * Comment Thanks Everyone for your input. I'm really wanting to keep this person on Wikipedia, and I'm not close to her at all. I am a Neutral user trying to help this page get on Wikipedia with No Problems. If there is a way you could help me, I would really appreciate it. Once again, I really appreciate the feedback given above. Thanks! Dannywestmusic (talk) 06:07, 7 July 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. Like Dannywestmusic, I'm one who would want her to have an article in Wikipedia. I know she has been around the Disney Channel and Nickelodeon circuit in the last few years ... Austin & Ally, Sam & Cat, and Nicky, Ricky, Dicky & Dawn. Unfortunately, she had minor roles in all those, and other shows and films she has been in have not shown a significant presence. Except for Just Add Magic, but that is only one significant role and it fails WP:NACTOR. And right now, gauging from what I'm seeing in Google searches, there is little, if any independent, significant coverage in reliable sources, so general notability is out, too. While I could also go with the TOOSOON argument, she has been in that state by Wikipedia standards for a few years now. She definitely needs a stand-out significant role on TV or in a film if she is going to get past that. MPFitz1968 (talk) 06:33, 7 July 2016 (UTC)
 * Weak delete - I have no problem saying that her role in Just Add Magic qualifies as one of the multiple roles needed under WP:NACTOR, but I cannot scrape up the second one. Her role in Little Savages is not inconsequential - she gets included in the short cast list on Amazon, her character appears in and is named in the trailer - the film itself is not notable. An apparent direct-to-video release (no MPAA rating), the film not only has no Wikipedia page, it has zero reviews at Rotten Tomatoes . It is unnoted and thus unnotable. I would not be surprised if this person crossed that notability horizon in not too long, and would certainly have no objection to the page being userfied. --Nat Gertler (talk) 15:39, 7 July 2016 (UTC)
 * Yeah, I would have suggested Draftifying if there was likely to be more to the article. But the "proper" article is likely to be a two-sentence stub (with the Filmography table) which probably isn't worth keeping even as a Draft... --IJBall (contribs • talk) 15:58, 7 July 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete as still nothing actually convincing for her own notability, nothing else convincing overall. SwisterTwister   talk  18:59, 15 July 2016 (UTC)


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