Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Auchenshoogle


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. Eddie891 Talk Work 17:20, 18 November 2020 (UTC)

Auchenshoogle

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I prodded it with the following rationale: "The coverage (references, external links, etc.) does not seem sufficient to justify this article passing General notability guideline and the more detailed Notability (fiction) requirement. WP:BEFORE did not reveal any significant coverage on Gnews, Gbooks or Gscholar." It was deprodded by User:Spinningspark with the following rationale "This has some coverage - potentially notable". Perhaps they'll share some of that coverage, as all I see in my BEFORE are plot summaries and mentions in passing. At best, this could be redirected to the comic strip - the problem is that it is apparently a setting of two, so how do we choose? Maybe chose the older one? Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus&#124; reply here 08:44, 11 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Fictional elements-related deletion discussions. Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus&#124; reply here  08:44, 11 November 2020 (UTC)
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 * Delete While the work itself (Oor Wullie) appears to be notable, I have not found any reliable coverage of the subject either. Since WP:FICTION calls for fictional subjects to meet the same WP:GNG as any other subject, I will say delete. Modussiccandi (talk) 10:39, 11 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep It's easy to find coverage and even the nomination acknowledges that redirection would be a sensible alternative to deletion. Note that the placename is based upon the real one of Auchenshuggle.  Per our policy WP:ATD: "If editing can improve the page, this should be done rather than deleting the page."  See also WP:IGNORINGATD and WP:NOTCLEANUP. Andrew🐉(talk) 14:27, 11 November 2020 (UTC)
 * If it is easy to find coverage, how about you try and share your finds? WP:NOTARANT. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus&#124; reply here 05:53, 12 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete - Fails WP:GNG. There's no need for retention if there is no meaningful content. A new redirect can easily be instituted for navigation purposes. TTN (talk) 21:17, 11 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete Fails GNG. Probably best to leave it deleted since it could redirect to two possible places.ZXCVBNM (TALK) 22:44, 11 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete no where near enough sourcing to show this has gotten the secondary coverage needed to show notability for a fictional place.John Pack Lambert (talk) 13:50, 12 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete as there isn't enough coverage of this in detail to meet the WP:GNG. Shooterwalker (talk) 17:41, 12 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete - The content of the article is completely unsourced. Searching for any coverage in reliable sources does not turn up very much - basically just limited to brief sentences stating its the name of the town that Oor Wullie was set.  If a redirect were created to an appropriate article after deletion, that would be fine, but unsourced content should not be retained, and thus the current page should be deleted.  Rorshacma (talk) 00:42, 13 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Comment - the lack of sourcing here is an issue. For instance the article claims "The name was used infrequently in the early days of the comic strip", but I have never heard of it being used in the original 1930s and 1940s strip. Indeed that was obviously set in Glasgow - for instance in a 1938 strip Oor Wullie walked from school to the Glasgow Empire Exhibition. Later more Dundee elements crept in, but I have no idea when the name first appeared. That said the name is now in common use and fairly well known, which might meet notability requirements. Yet we know very little about it as a (fictional) place, and I am not aware of an article discussing it, so I do have concerns is to whether an encyclopedic article could ever be developed on Auchenshoogle.Dunarc (talk) 23:45, 15 November 2020 (UTC)


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