Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Audra Mari (3rd nomination)


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The result was keep. (non-admin closure) RandomCanadian (talk / contribs) 02:21, 23 June 2020 (UTC)

Audra Mari
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Fails WP:BLP1E. There is nothing out there about her unrelated to pageant life. John from Idegon (talk) 20:30, 15 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep won a major title of Miss World America and competed at Miss World as well as winning a number of other pageants as confirmed in reliable sources such as Vanity Fair and regional press. Apart from winning Miss World this is about the highest achievement for a pageant holder, imv Atlantic306 (talk) 20:44, 15 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Beauty pageants-related deletion discussions. Shellwood (talk) 22:53, 15 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of North Dakota-related deletion discussions. Shellwood (talk) 22:53, 15 June 2020 (UTC)


 * Keep. This isn't "one event". She's famous for excelling in the field of beauty pageants, and she's even received significant media coverage for it. Are we going to delete 90% of articles about athletes because they are only notable for their participation in sport? Mysteryman blue 23:22, 15 June 2020 (UTC)
 * The community has decided that at a certain level of achievement, we can assume certain athletes are notable. The community has also decided that we do not assume that about pagent participents. Specifically, we have decided that there is NO level at which pageant participation implies notability. In other words, if all you can show is the person has participated in beauty pageants (no matter the level of achievement), then that person is not notable. Your argument is entirely a red herring, . John from Idegon (talk) 04:00, 18 June 2020 (UTC)
 * It seems to me that Audra Mai has received significant media coverage, as she has been covered by a number of independent sources due to her successes in pageantry. You contend that this coverage is not significant because it is only related to her pageant life, providing WP:BLP1E as evidence. I counter with the idea that WP:BLP1E only covers people receiving coverage due to a single event; Audra Mai is famous due to a number of events which she has excelled at. I'm not proposing that we keep this article because she crossed some line in the sand that makes her accomplishments article-worthy. I'm proposing that we keep this article because she received significant news coverage as a result of her participation and success in the field of beauty pageants. Pageant participation may not imply notability, but the level of news coverage does, and Mai's participation in pageants does not diminish that coverage. Mysteryman blue 04:44, 18 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Women-related deletion discussions. North America1000 02:44, 16 June 2020 (UTC)


 * Delete The competition she won is not covered enough in the United States to justify notability on its own. The coverage is not enough to justify an article.John Pack Lambert (talk) 12:39, 16 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete Fails GNG in relation to other parts of her life. Sportsfan 1234 (talk) 15:45, 16 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep Meets GNG in my opinion. Plus, keep result from 2nd nomination implies that she was notable then and notability cannot be lost. Samsmachado (talk) 00:54, 18 June 2020 (UTC)
 * I have to agree with this point. Consensus from the second nomination was to keep. What has changed since then? This WP:BLP1E issue was even asked an answered in the previous nomination. Is this article going to be persistently nominated for deletion until the desired result is achieved? <b style="border-radius:2em;border:solid #34c 1px;padding:0 5px;background:linear-gradient(101deg,#34c 71.4%,#fff 0)"><i style="color:#fff">Mysteryman</i> <i style="color:#34c">blue</i></b> 05:15, 18 June 2020 (UTC)


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