Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Augustinianum College


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   no consensus. with socks in mind. v/r - TP 01:27, 14 March 2012 (UTC)

Augustinianum College

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Looking at the non-independent source provided, it looks more like a dormitory then a educational institute. Therefore, not notable. Night of the Big Wind talk  21:58, 25 February 2012 (UTC)

They are a mix because they offers courses in addition to courses of the university. So i think they can be considered notable. Paolo VI College can be consider important for the building, which was built by Gio Ponti. The structure is famous in Milan--Cormeo (talk) 22:12, 25 February 2012 (UTC)
 * I have removed the alumni that were added, as they don't have a trace of evidence. In some cases it was not even clear if they had studied in Milan at all. I still miss the independent, reliable sources to proof the notability of this article. Night of the Big Wind  talk  18:27, 27 February 2012 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Italy-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 18:43, 27 February 2012 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Schools-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 18:43, 27 February 2012 (UTC)


 * this is a prove of the courses of this college. it's in italian. http://www.istitutotoniolo.it/wp-content/uploads/2011/07/brochure-ALTE-SCUOLE-e-Collegi-LD-2010.pdf i don't understand why you have deleted the list of notable students who have studied at augustinianum college????????? --79.45.147.28 (talk) 21:00, 28 February 2012 (UTC)
 * this is a list of notable alumni of this college (from it.wiki) with some references (i put only 3 references)


 * Amintore Fanfani http://www.lastoriasiamonoi.rai.it/puntata.aspx?id=459
 * Romano Prodi http://milano.corriere.it/milano/foto_del_giorno/10_aprile_28/prodi-1602920812617.shtml
 * Ciriaco De Mita http://www.telefree.it/news.php?op=view&id=71145
 * Giovanni Maria Flick
 * Tiziano Treu
 * card. Sergio Pignedoli
 * Luigi Gui
 * Adriano Bausola
 * don Giulio Cattin
 * Giuseppe Dossetti
 * card. Paulos Tzadua
 * Riccardo Misasi
 * Gerardo Bianco
 * Guido Baglioni
 * Paolo Prodi
 * Virgilio Melchiorre
 * Raffaele Cananzi
 * Roberto Ruffilli
 * Salvatore Natoli
 * Carlo Dell'Aringa
 * Pasquale Onida
 * Mario Capanna
 * Mario Pagliari
 * Stefano Zamagni
 * Enzo Balboni
 * Pasquale Hamel
 * Giovanni Gazzaneo
 * Piero Testoni
 * Giacomo Vaciago
 * Pietro Fazzi
 * Mario Mauro
 * Luciano Ghelfi
 * Vincenzo Mollica
 * Angelo Maria Perrino
 * Luciano Follieri
 * Armando Verdiglione
 * Franco Rositi
 * Cesare Mozzarelli — Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.5.206.148 (talk) 22:59, 28 February 2012 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Ron Ritzman (talk) 01:20, 3 March 2012 (UTC)

 *Keep it's a college of a prestigious university. so it's notable like all the other voices on colleges.--Cormeun (talk) 23:24, 4 March 2012 (UTC) vote by sockpuppet: Sockpuppet investigations/Cormeo. Night of the Big Wind   talk  18:25, 5 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Keep As far as I can tell, its nature is akin to that of the various Colleges of Oxford or Cambridge, a partially autonomous residential and teaching institution as part of a larger university. We almost always keep those articles, if the institution is important and substantial, and there is enough to say. This is a famous university, and there is enough to say, though the current page needs great expansion. What the Italian encyclopedia did is not relevant--wee are considerably more inclusive for academic institutions than most other WPs. There are many other possible sources than newspapers; for European universities, most of them will be paper. the notable alumni is a relevant argument--we have always used this as an indication of notability, even for US elementary schools and especially, back when we were still arguing about high schools, for high schools.  DGG ( talk ) 17:17, 3 March 2012 (UTC)

No, I'm cormeo but not logged in. sorry. P.s. i think that this discussion has not sense. Why all college can have a page?and this no? it is not only a dormitory. see the official website and the wiki italian page (http://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Collegio_Augustinianum) ,please and  goodnight.--Cormeo (talk) 23:05, 8 March 2012 (UTC)
 * keep --college--95.232.129.129 (talk) 15:35, 8 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Are you sure you are not another reincarnation of Cormeo?  Night of the Big Wind  talk  19:05, 8 March 2012 (UTC)
 * What I pointed out several times before: I miss reliable, independent third party sources. The University website is not sufficient in my opinion. Night of the Big Wind  talk  10:26, 9 March 2012 (UTC)


 * Comment for the closing admin Cormeo, Cormeun, IP 75..., IP 79... and IP 95... are all the same person. Night of the Big Wind  talk  10:26, 9 March 2012 (UTC)

ok, i give you some third party sources: p.s. I'm cormeo — Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.30.162.213 (talk) 20:13, 9 March 2012 (UTC) p.s. there is no a limit time in discussion?? so later tonight I think this discussion (and the other about marianum college) can be closed .--79.30.163.138 (talk) 16:31, 10 March 2012 (UTC)
 * http://www.collegiuniversitari.org/collegi.asp?cod=47
 * http://affaritaliani.libero.it/milano/collegio-augustinianum-universita-cattolica080212.html (italian Newspaper)
 * http://www.linkedin.com/groups?about=&gid=1318337&trk=anet_ug_grppro
 * http://www.istitutotoniolo.it/wp-content/uploads/2011/07/brochure-ALTE-SCUOLE-e-Collegi-LD-2010.pdf (extra coures of the college)
 * Keep it's a famous college like Pembroke College, Cambridge, Linacre College, Oxford, Stevenson College ecc,ecc :I'm cormeo (or ip 79 75 95) i think we can conclude this discussion; NOBODY participates and the few (DGG) representatives are in favor of keeping.
 * I think you have screwed that up yourself, by voting with different IPs, adding falsified statements that the article was kept, removing AfD-templates and the use of a sockpuppet. Why should we believe you? Night of the Big Wind  talk  01:07, 12 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Keep I understand for an American college is an istitution with teaching activites and accomodation in Italy for Collegio we refer to a dormitory. The article can be renamed as Collegio Agostinianum.The istitution is notable and well know in italy.User:Lucifero4

Can someone renominate these voices:
 * Keep His name is Augustinianum. Official name (italian) COLLEGIO AUGUSTINIANUM
 * Marianum College__Collegio Marianum
 * Augustinianum College__Collegio Augustinianum
 * Paolo VI College__Collegio Paolo VI--79.30.164.195 (talk) 19:13, 11 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Keep, agree with User:DGG who has said it more eloquently than myself: notable as a college of a large university and verifiable from the links given -- Samir 02:12, 13 March 2012 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.