Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Aussie Broadband


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The result was   Delete.  Jerry  delusional ¤ kangaroo 03:34, 16 September 2008 (UTC)

Aussie Broadband

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The article has no sources and reads like an advertisement. I tagged the article as CSD 11 but was removed by an IP. Fails notability has no reliable sources. This ISP isn't notable unlike Bigpond, iiNet/Westnet, Internode ect which are major ISP's that also have there own infrastructure where as Aussie Broadband is only a small ISP that resells. Bidgee (talk) 11:32, 11 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Also as a note "Aussie Broadband" on Google shows up some news stories which are not related with the company/article as it's about Australian (Aussie in short) Broadband. Bidgee (talk) 11:47, 11 September 2008 (UTC)


 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Australia-related deletion discussions.   —Bidgee (talk) 11:47, 11 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete -- without third party sources this is mere advertising. - Longhair\talk 11:54, 11 September 2008 (UTC)

— Preceding unsigned comment added by 119.17.131.53 (talk • contribs)
 * Aussie Broadband is one of only a half-dozen satellite ISP's operating under the Australian Government Broadband Guarantee, which allows rural users access to broadband at semi-equivalent metro rates. This (in my humble opinion) makes it notable. It does read a bit ad-like though. 119.17.135.14 (talk) 12:00, 11 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Just because it has funding from the Australian Government Broadband Guarantee doesn't make it notable and all it does is resell a product. Bidgee (talk) 12:09, 11 September 2008 (UTC)
 * I disagree. There are only (counts) 12 ISP's in Australia that currently qualify for the AGBG, which helps drop the install costs of Australian satellite internet by $2500, and lowers the ongoing costs significantly. In AussieBroadband's case, it also delivers a product (the IPStar platform) which is not available directly from IPStar to the average Australian internet user. This makes them (and certainly, the other 11 ISP's on the list) more notable over the other few hundred ISP's in Australia 119.17.135.14 (talk) 12:34, 11 September 2008 (UTC)
 * So? having AGBG funding so rural Australian's payless for broadband and as a company that resells a product, doesn't make it notable. Bidgee (talk) 12:53, 11 September 2008 (UTC)
 * They are about as notable as the other 26 ISP's listed on ISP's of Australia. I don't see any great amount of difference between those ISP pages and this one. Except for the lack of decent third-party sources.119.17.135.14 (talk) 22:46, 11 September 2008 (UTC)
 * See Other stuff exists. -- Longhair\talk 00:26, 12 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Aussie Broadband does own a lot of network infrusture in regional Victoria including a large Last Mile Wireless network and ADSL2+ DSLAM's. While this is not directly visable on the Aussie Broadband site, if you reference its two holly owned companies Wideband Networks  and Westvic Broadband  it will be there.  Also if you search the Australian Google site for Aussie Broadband, it comes up as the first result.  I agree the current page does read like an add and should be ammended.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 202.142.130.130 (talk) 12:14, 11 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Third party sources to prove that they own infrastructure like those of other ISP's? Any company can make such claims including those that are not well known and just because the site for the company shows up as first result doesn't make it notable. Bidgee (talk) 12:47, 11 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Speedy delete: blatant adverting. Alexius08 is welcome to talk about his contributions. 14:00, 11 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete. Secondary sources lacking, notability issue. Equendil Talk 18:42, 11 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete. Non-Notable. Company was only founded this year, make this article again when you can get some 3rd party sources that can secure it's notability -- ErnestVoice (User) (Talk) 17:22, 12 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Uh.. No, you'll find that the two companies which merged date back to 2003 and 2001. And what the hell do you mean "third party sources?" the fact that i am typing this message now eems to prove they are an ISP. I think you'll find that [This link] proves that. If i were to apply your rationale to other entries from the likes of Internode, Tel$tra and Optus, they should also be deleted. ABB happens to have the largest satellite network in Australia and are actually a wholesaler with their own infrastructure and high-capacity links from Brisbane to Sydney to Melbourne. Perhaps you should actually do some research before making assumptions...
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