Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Auto Cub


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was redirect to List of defunct automobile manufacturers of the United States. as an ATD. Liz Read! Talk! 18:37, 19 December 2022 (UTC)

Auto Cub

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I have found three references - all single paragraphs - to this in old motoring books. One says that it had a top speed of 15 mph, was made of plywood and few sold. This doesn't sound like a notable American car, given the page itself says that little is known about it. JMWt (talk) 16:42, 12 December 2022 (UTC)


 * The references I have are these: Weird cars page 62 and Cars of the Fifties page 88 and Encyclopedia of American Cars page 319 - 1 paragraph in each. JMWt (talk) 16:47, 12 December 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete Nothing for GNG, one brief mention and it even says we don't know much about the vehicle. Oaktree b (talk) 16:57, 12 December 2022 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: History, Products, Transportation,  and New Hampshire. Skynxnex (talk) 17:12, 12 December 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete The article itself states that the subject is essentially non-notable. No GNG pass. Trainsandotherthings (talk) 17:28, 12 December 2022 (UTC)
 * Comment: Is there any potential redirect target as an WP:ATD? Curbon7 (talk) 17:48, 12 December 2022 (UTC)
 * Keep Some time on google books found three more sources, a 1956 vehicle is most likely to be documented in offline sources. I was able to verify most of what was said and add more details, I think there is enough for a stub and potential to improve the article further. CT55555 (talk) 20:10, 12 December 2022 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the Article Rescue Squadron's list of content for rescue consideration. CT55555 (talk) 20:21, 12 December 2022 (UTC)
 * Comment Dozens of potential reliable sources. Posting here for working purposes, no comment if it's notable or not. -- Green  C  22:02, 12 December 2022 (UTC)
 * Keep I have added references and separated the history and specs into sections within the article. The vehicle is notable even though it was crude, basic and whimsical. We have enough for an encyclopedic article. The vehicle is in the "Encyclopedia of American cars, 1946-1959" and so I think it belongs in our encyclopedia as well. Bruxton (talk) 00:30, 13 December 2022 (UTC)
 * Redirect to List of defunct automobile manufacturers of the United States since the vehicle is listed there. Pinging participants to consider this option. Bruxton (talk) 01:01, 15 December 2022 (UTC)
 * Without wanting an argument, referencing an encyclopedia is hardly ideal for another encyclopedia. There are references in various books, I'm not disagreeing there. It seems highly likely to me that these reference each other, given the information is often the same. In total, I think there's a paragraph of information at best, and if we take the oldest reference as the likely origin of the information in the others, that seems to me to be a passing reference which is simply repeated in the others. I can't even be sure that this wasn't a hoax or a joke that was just taken seriously by other later sources. JMWt (talk) 09:28, 13 December 2022 (UTC)
 * The redirect seems ok as well. Oaktree b (talk) 01:19, 15 December 2022 (UTC)
 * Redirect would be ok.. Flibbertigibbets (talk) 04:36, 15 December 2022 (UTC)
 * Auto Cub is the model, Randall Products was the manufacturer, so I think this is not a good redirect target. CT55555 (talk) 04:38, 15 December 2022 (UTC)
 * I don't actually see Randall Products included in the list (though a "Randall" from 1902-1903 is included). I don't support a redirect to the list when the target isn't mentioned in any capacity. Trainsandotherthings (talk) 14:08, 15 December 2022 (UTC)


 *  Comment Redirect This article (as improved is right on the cusp of keep) I found a mention here https://www.sportscarmarket.com/profile/1962-king-midget-model-3 what is interesting is that some of the "more notable" of the dozens of these types of cars have entries Flibbertigibbets (talk) 02:27, 13 December 2022 (UTC)
 * A 'mention' is exactly right. Unless I'm missing something, it is an article about a different vehicle that literally only uses the words once in passing. There may be dozens of references, I'm doubting that any of them amount to more than a paragraph. JMWt (talk) 09:23, 13 December 2022 (UTC)


 * Delete or merge, if a suitable target can be found. Coverage is not suitably in-depth to meet WP:SIGCOV. I'm happy to reconsider if extra sources are discovered. MrsSnoozyTurtle 21:52, 13 December 2022 (UTC)
 * I support a redirect to List of defunct automobile manufacturers of the United States, as suggested by Bruxton. MrsSnoozyTurtle 08:00, 15 December 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete - despite the improvements, simply just not enough sigcov to pass notability criteria. Although I agree that a redirect would be suitable if a proper one can be found.  I even looked to see if there was enough sourcing for Randall Products, to see if an article could be made for the company, and this content merged to it, but couldn't find enough on Books, Newspapers.com, Google, etc.   Onel 5969  TT me 22:33, 14 December 2022 (UTC)
 * I can't fight the opinions of the many. But perhaps a good redirect target is List of defunct automobile manufacturers of the United States since the vehicle is listed there. I have also pinged the other participants here including the nominator. Bruxton (talk) 01:01, 15 December 2022 (UTC)


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