Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Autumn Goodbye


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   delete. --Bongwarrior (talk) 16:10, 30 August 2008 (UTC)

Autumn Goodbye

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Going beyond WP:CRYSTAL and wandering near or across the boundaries of fraud. No reliable sources for anything beyond the title. One reliable looking source at lalate.com, but the tracklist appears to have come from the Wikipedia article, not the other way around. The cover image is another fun story. The lalate.com story leaks the cover photograph, so what do we have on Wikipedia? Not one cover image with a conveniently photoshopped-looking appearance, but two! Uploader of the photograph has refused to answer enquiries about the source, and the pictures are conveniently sourced to the vague "Warner Brothers Mexico", without a specific URL. I've dug around Warner Brothers, and can't find any trace of this album of image. Kww (talk) 23:30, 25 August 2008 (UTC)


 * Just wanted to amplify a few points: lalate.com was published on Aug. 25th, while the tracklist in the Wikipedia article was complete on Aug. 23rd, so it's simply impossible for lalate.com to be the actual source. Since I can't find the tracklisting on an official source, lalate.com must have derived it from an unofficial source, like, say, Wikipedia. As for the cover image, lalate.com points out that it appears to be a scan from ELLE magazine. Not being in the US, I can't verify that the image is a scan, but, given the amateurish appearance of the cover images, it wouldn't surprise me a bit.Kww (talk) 02:13, 26 August 2008 (UTC)
 * One more bit: The uploader of these covers has hoaxed covers for imaginary Ashley Tisdale albums before.Kww (talk) 02:25, 26 August 2008 (UTC)


 * Strong delete. Good detective work. This stuff may be true is almost certainly not true, but it's unverified and even if it is, it's still unverified. The fact that we can be having a debate about the truth of the matter is enough grounds for deletion until something comes out in reliable sources. --N Shar (talk · contribs) 00:05, 26 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Changed to strong delete after seeing the extra evidence that the user has done this previously. Closing admin might want to consider sanctions against the user as well. --N Shar (talk · contribs) 05:15, 26 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete as hoax. Edward321 (talk) 14:08, 26 August 2008 (UTC)

I don't now, i think that the album is real. OK, it will be a second album but i say don't delete. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 62.28.13.158 (talk) 14:41, 26 August 2008 (UTC)


 *  Delete as hoax per above. Note also that the first "reference" doesn't even mention an album, let alone give details. (My bad, it does mention it but remains an unreliable source) --ThaddeusB (talk) 15:03, 26 August 2008 (UTC)


 * Delete - There are no reliable sources to confirm any of the information. Rumours from web forums are not the foundation for an encyclopedia article. -- Whpq (talk) 15:05, 26 August 2008 (UTC)


 * Strong Keep - The article now has 2 sources and both of them are very reliable. --DCFan101 (talk) 01:20, 28 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete. No, those "sources" are not reliable at all. Deor (talk) 05:11, 28 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete: Totally unsourced, and totally fake, like, totally! :P  My line for future albums is confirmation from the official website and/or the record label.  Both don't mention anything at all.  And even if somehow this was true, it's still 5 months away; many things could change by then. SKS2K6 (talk) 17:25, 28 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete, for realz. - eo (talk) 18:25, 28 August 2008 (UTC)
 * "Hurry Up" and delete this "Right Now"...especially since the two track titles I just invoked aren't verifiable. —C.Fred (talk) 04:31, 29 August 2008 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.