Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Avalanche the Architect


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The result was delete. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont)  11:27, 6 December 2019 (UTC)

Avalanche the Architect

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Fails WP:BASIC, WP:ANYBIO and WP:MUSICBIO. No charted songs or awards. Sources are links to videos and promotional websites. Many of the sources discuss a legal proceeding this person was involved in, though these alone do not support notability. Magnolia677 (talk) 22:05, 27 November 2019 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions. Shellwood (talk) 23:08, 27 November 2019 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Ontario-related deletion discussions. Shellwood (talk) 23:08, 27 November 2019 (UTC)


 * Keep as the singer meets WP:BASIC, and some in WP:MUSICBIO, and I just looked up about him on the web and he has met some notability to have an article. He has no songs on the chart or won any awards, but I don't see if every musician on Wikipedia have their songs on the charts. I will suggest to put "Template:BLP sources" tag until someone finds better sources and add in the article. -- Captain Assassin! «T ♦ C ♦ G» 09:01, 28 November 2019 (UTC)
 * Thanks for that. Could you share some of the links?  All I found were trivial mentions, legal proceedings, and promotional pages.  Thank you. Magnolia677 (talk) 12:29, 28 November 2019 (UTC)
 * You might have seen those too (less reliable sources other than his legal proceedings), and that's why I am suggesting to put "BLP sources" tag for now. -- Captain Assassin! «T ♦ C ♦ G» 13:11, 28 November 2019 (UTC)


 * Delete as a WP:BLP1E. While it's true that charting and awards aren't the only notability criteria in NMUSIC, this article isn't properly demonstrating that he passes any of the others either. The sourcing for his music career itself is entirely to hip hop promotional blogs rather than notability-making sources — and what little genuinely reliable source coverage he actually has is entirely in the context of a criminal proceeding, so the only notability criterion I can actually evaluate this against is WP:PERP. But under PERP, we don't necessarily keep an article about every criminal who exists just because a few hits of media coverage can be found — if the person wasn't already notable enough for an article before the criminal allegations, then we need to see a credible reason why the crime was of enduring national or international significance before we consider him notable as a criminal per se. But just showing a couple of purely local hits of crime coverage in Toronto's local media doesn't demonstrate that, so it doesn't add up to enough coverage to override his lack of solid sourcing as a musician. If two or three hits of purely local coverage in the crime context were all it took to make him notable enough for an international encyclopedia, we would have to keep articles about Chair Girl and Crane Girl too. Bearcat (talk) 17:00, 1 December 2019 (UTC)
 * Keep it. Avalanche the Architect has several significant sources. --John Ranchie —Preceding undated comment added 10:08, 4 December 2019 (UTC)
 * Blocked sock. MER-C 08:24, 5 December 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete as undisclosed paid-for spam. See Sockpuppet investigations/John Ranchie. MER-C 08:24, 5 December 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete - Fails WP:ANYBIO and WP:MUSICBIO - Jay (talk) 05:45, 6 December 2019 (UTC)


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