Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Avatar Blue (2nd nomination)


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The result was   delete. Cirt (talk) 21:43, 30 October 2008 (UTC)

Avatar Blue
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Non-notable band. Only a single album released. Most notable award won by the band is from the Boston Music Awards. Millbrooky (talk) 21:45, 20 October 2008 (UTC)

Comment Whoops, I didn't even notice this article had previously been nominated at AfD as I came to this article via Avatar blue and noticed the duplication of the articles. --Millbrooky (talk) 21:53, 20 October 2008 (UTC)


 * Delete per nom, no substantial coverage from reliable third party outlets.  coccyx bloccyx  (toccyx)  21:46, 20 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete No reliable sources found. Ten Pound Hammer  and his otters • (Broken clamshells • Otter chirps • HELP) 21:48, 20 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Weak keep on the basis of WP:MUSIC criterion #1—the band has had at least three mentions (which I have now added to the article) in Boston-area newspapers, for their award nominations primarily. Paul Erik  (talk) (contribs) 04:14, 21 October 2008 (UTC)


 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions.   — Paul Erik  (talk) (contribs) 04:17, 21 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so that consensus may be reached. Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, –Juliancolton Tropical  Cyclone  00:59, 25 October 2008 (UTC)


 * Comment I think this listing is noteworthy - Avatar Blue was the jumping off point for at least two recognized musicians - Chris Phoenix (a Billboard award winning songwriter and producer who has worked with a number of Grammy nominated artists and Bryan Steele a renounced Jazz Tenor Saxophonist with a multitude of writing credits.) It does need additional citations, --John Pope (talk) 23:44, 25 October 2008 (UTC)


 * Comment I too find this listing noteworthy - I would argue that according to the criteria for musician and ensembles that Avatar Blue qualifies due to items 6, 8 and 9. Item 6 - "Contains at .least one notable musician" -  It contains 2, Chris Phoenix - himself a Billboard Songwriting award recipient and the winner of at least 2 ASCAP awards, and Bryan Steele - with compositions in The Amazing Race, American Idol Rewind, Dr. 90210, A&E Biography and All My Children.   Item 8 - "Has won or been nominated for a major music award" - Avatar Blue was nominated as best unsigned band by Musician Magazine but more importantly won a Billboard Songwriting Achievement Award.  Item 9 - "Has performed music for a work of media that notable" - though borderline, Avatar Blue wrote the opening credits for film "Last Night at Eddies", closing credits for "Code of Ethics" starring Melissa Leo and music for The City (short lived soap on ABC)   --NotkarBalbulus (talk) 23:44, 25 October 2008 (UTC)


 * Note Both of the comments above are by users that have only edited the article Chris Phoenix (producer), a former member of Avatar Blue. --Millbrooky (talk) 17:11, 29 October 2008 (UTC)


 * Comment Just a comment on the note above. It is my position that contributers who only write about something they feel they are an authority on aren't any less valuable or valid.   --MusicLegacy (talk) 14:21, 30 October 2008 (UTC)


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