Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Aviat diamond mine


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   delete. Callanecc (talk • contribs • logs) 06:16, 14 October 2014 (UTC)

Aviat diamond mine

 * – ( View AfD View log  diamond mine Stats )

I do not believe that the article meets Notability. In fact I don't think that the mine actually exists. The article has a source, http://www.mining-journal.com/reports/diamonds---2006-last-updated-july-25th?SQ_DESIGN_NAME=print_friendly, but some of the statements do not appear in the source. There is only one mention of Aviat in the source and that is as "Aviat kimberlite field". There is no mention of it being a mine nor of it having 40.3 million carats. While Stornoway Diamonds does mention the project it does not call it a mine and the last press release is from 2011. They also show the area as being on Melville Peninsula and not Melville Island (Northwest Territories and Nunavut) as shown in the article source. A search for Aviat kimberlite, Aviat project and Aviat diamond did not turn up anything recent, with the newest result from 2011. I tried searching Nunatsiaq News, a territorial newspaper that would have reported on an operating mine, and again all of their results www.google.ca/cse?cx=partner-pub-4247044917879874%3Ak3ie52kieg3&ie=UTF-8&q=aviat&sa=Search#gsc.tab=0&gsc.q=aviat&gsc.page=1, are outdated. I had considered moving it to Aviat Project but given how old any of the possible sources are I didn't feel that that would work. CBWeather, Talk, Seal meat for supper? 01:12, 7 October 2014 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Canada-related deletion discussions. CBWeather, Talk, Seal meat for supper? 01:26, 7 October 2014 (UTC)


 * Delete. User:Bine Mai has a history of creating articles about non-existent mines. Check this AfD for another example. This user should have their contributions checked to see if there are any more hoax mine articles.  Volcano guy  03:46, 7 October 2014 (UTC)
 * Delete. Not a mine I have ever heard of, and only ref I can find is for the above mentioned exploration project from Stornoway Diamonds.  It would appear that Bine Mai has taken any mention of a project and made an article on them.  A scan of a few of his other diamond articles shows many stubs that all start the same way. The "NAME" mine is one of the largest diamond mines in "COUNTRY" and in the world.  Obviously there are a lot of largest diamond mines out there.  A quick review of a few of his other mine articles shows a similar disturbing pattern.  Turgan Talk 05:45, 7 October 2014 (UTC)
 * Comment. I have started PROD'ing other mine articles that dont exist.  Almost considered speedies as hoaxes.  There are a lot of false articles here.  How many of the 3500+ articles created are actually real.  I would suggst this user's autoconfirmed right be removed so that any new articles need to be reviewed. Turgan Talk 20:57, 7 October 2014 (UTC)
 * This user has created not just false mine articles but also ones about non-existent oil and gas fields.  Volcano guy  23:55, 7 October 2014 (UTC)


 * Delete. Arviat, Nunavut is a small town where diamond miners are trained. (.) There is no active mine in Nunavut called the "Arviat mine." (.) --Sammy1339 (talk) 06:23, 7 October 2014 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom and above. Titanium Dragon (talk) 08:30, 7 October 2014 (UTC)
 * Comment-It would seem as if the article is more a case of TOOSOON. All I can find are reports such as this one from 2012, but nothing about mining activity. It could be kept and rewritten, including the 2011 and 2012 reports as refs, to reflect this. - Takeaway (talk) 04:14, 8 October 2014 (UTC)
 * Many properties never turn into mines, in fact most don't. How can you be sure the Aviat kimberlites will be mined in the future? Volcano guy  04:35, 8 October 2014 (UTC)


 * Delete Indeed, no guarantee. I tried researching mentions of Aviat in this past year and Google still only shows geological reports, financial prognoses, and press releases by the companies involved of how promising the Aviat Kimberlite is. - Takeaway (talk) 01:23, 9 October 2014 (UTC)
 * Delete per my comments at User_talk:Bine_Mai. The only link in the article printed out without my hitting the print button, so beware hitting the printer-ready link. I assume that this user was duped into creating articles on mines that don't exist, or don't have the mass of minerals claimed. It seems to be that somebody has created a scam about mining investments, and is using us as the fool. Bearian (talk) 16:15, 9 October 2014 (UTC)
 * Delete with regards to the 40.3 million carats, that was reported in a document titled Aviat Conceptual Study Outlines 24.1- 40.3 Million Carats Of Diamonds, note 40.3 million as the upper end of the range they gave. I am no expert on mineral classification, but I would think (and correct me if I am wrong) that this in no way means that the mine (and I use that word in its loosest possible context) has a reserve of 40.3 million carats as stated in the article. Outside of the required technical and legal terminology (reserve vs. resource vs. conceptual), I believe that given the article and the website both list 40.3 million carats it is safe to say we are talking about the same property (notwithstanding  pointing out that they are described in different places).  Having said that, the 2008 report from Stornoway states that a National Instrument 43-101 report was forthcoming, and a search of SEDAR brings up one dated 22 June 2009, which reports a conceptual amount of diamonds in the ground as 40.3 million, with the caveat:
 * The above estimates are conceptual in nature and do not constitute the estimation of a mineral resource.
 * Everything that I found on SEDAR over the last few years seems to be related to the Renard Project in Quebec. My belief is that, like any good junior company, they worked and reported on all their properties. When they found one that had legs (Renard) the ignored the remaining ones to focus on the most promising. I don't think this is so much a hoax, but just an overstatement of what is actually on a property that exists. I downloaded a copy of the NI 43-101 report, if anyone is interested. --kelapstick(bainuu) 14:36, 11 October 2014 (UTC)


 * Comment. Just so there is no confusion. The Aviat diamond mine has nothing to do with Arviat the hamlet or the Arviat Diamond Driller Training held there. They are about 950 km apart. CBWeather, Talk, Seal meat for supper? 17:18, 11 October 2014 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.