Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Avital Inbar


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was no consensus.  Sandstein  18:50, 28 November 2019 (UTC)

Avital Inbar

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Not seeing any notability. Slatersteven (talk) 14:00, 27 October 2019 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Authors-related deletion discussions. Shellwood (talk) 14:32, 27 October 2019 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Israel-related deletion discussions. Shellwood (talk) 14:32, 27 October 2019 (UTC)

— has only contributed to the article(s) under discussion for deletion and this XFD page. Cabayi (talk) 11:01, 7 November 2019 (UTC)
 * Slatersteven does not see any "notability", perhaps because he is not familiar with the person: With 186,000 google search results, 192 books he wrote or translated, dozens of articles in leading newspapers and magazines, he is a household name in Israel. A few months ago, he received an honorary French citizenship for gis contribution to French culture. Perhaps user Slatersteven could provide a more concrete reason with his request to remove this article? --רמי נוידרפר (talk) 18:19, 27 October 2019 (UTC)


 * Full Disclosure: I have been using Inbar's travel books for years in my travels to France. They are read like novels. Some of his translations, such as that to "Les Miserables" by Hugo are masterpieces.
 * Then it should not be hard to provide two RS that give in depth coverage of him.Slatersteven (talk) 18:20, 27 October 2019 (UTC)


 * What do you mean by "two RS:? There is the Hebrew Wikipedia, which I did not write, and many other sources look at the list of publications in NLI, the interview in Haaretz  and more  --רמי נוידרפר (talk) 19:18, 27 October 2019 (UTC)
 * Wikis are not RS, please read wp:rs.Slatersteven (talk) 09:58, 29 October 2019 (UTC)


 * Keep Added an English reference for this very prolific French/Hebrew author and translator. Added link to Hebrew article. There are many sources for him in Israeli media which could be added to this article. Havradim (talk) 01:03, 28 October 2019 (UTC)
 * Keep a prolific written and translator with many of the titles appearing in mainstream publishers (as opposed to obscure ones or self published), even ignoring French Government awards that should be enough for notability. DGtal (talk) 06:22, 29 October 2019 (UTC)
 * Then how about some sources?Slatersteven (talk) 09:58, 29 October 2019 (UTC)


 * 192 books written or translated by him in Israeli national Library is not a source for you? Dozens of articles  about him are not enough? 92 Mentions in Google books in English don't count? 120 mentions in Google books in Hebrew? look at this  --רמי נוידרפר (talk) 11:08, 29 October 2019 (UTC)
 * Read wp:n, we need RS noting him, not me.Slatersteven (talk) 11:14, 29 October 2019 (UTC)

— has only contributed to the article(s) under discussion for deletion and this XFD page. Cabayi (talk) 11:01, 7 November 2019 (UTC)
 * Here is a link to Avital Inbar Articles in Travel Journal in Israel called 'Masa Aher': it shows Avital Inbar's broad influence on global culinary knowledge and its exposure to the public in Israel can be seen, and thus its impact on Israeli food culture.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rlnoa (talk • contribs) 15:35, 2 November 2019 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus. Relisting comment: To generate more engagement in AfD

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Britishfinance (talk) 17:37, 5 November 2019 (UTC)

— has only contributed to the article(s) under discussion for deletion and this XFD page. Cabayi (talk) 11:01, 7 November 2019 (UTC)
 * Please review references added next to the awards in the Awards section. Two of the awards have corresponding pages on Wikipedia, however I am unclear at this time as to how to update those with reliable sources and if these uploaded references suffice. David Hary (talk) 22:00, 5 November 2019 (UTC)


 * Indeed, David Hary has contributed to this article and no other. I replied to Cabayi assertion that I might be doing so in collusion with another editor. Indeed, it seems that that User:Rami Neudorfer has a second account under his Hebrew name. While potentially an issue, could this be investigated separately of this particular topic? Specifically what additional material could be provided to ascertain the notability of Mr. Inbar. Obviously, I am not sure if my editing help solidify the case for notability and would welcome any assistance  Cabayi, Slatersteven or other could offer. Obviously, too, our time is precious--we can spend so much time on this. Thank you. David  —Preceding undated comment added 17:25, 8 November 2019 (UTC)
 * We need multiple RS talking about him in some depth..Slatersteven (talk) 17:30, 8 November 2019 (UTC)


 * I have to ask do any editors here have any connection to or know Mr Inbar?Slatersteven (talk) 17:33, 8 November 2019 (UTC)


 * I have known Mr. Inbar for over 40 years. I have read and my library included many of his books. I read and included reviews of his work as links, lists, and references. Not all reviews are available on line but once the case is settled it would be a good time to clean the topic to its essence. I added the couple of Citations as Slatersteven requested. That said, I have little vested interested in this topic other than hoping justice is done in Mr. Inbar's case.  Obviously, his contributions, as important as they are to me, may not rise to the level deemed important by Wikipedia. This is for the process to determine. On my end, I spend quite a bit of time on this and am prepared to put in a bit more if this might help. Slatersteven let me know. Clearly I appreciate the time editors take to review and make informed decisions.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Davidhary (talk • contribs) 19:06, 8 November 2019 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,  Sandstein   12:39, 13 November 2019 (UTC)


 * Delete A WP:BEFORE doesn’t establish notability for the author. Fails WP:GNG no in-depth significant coverage of the author or his work in WP:RS. Celestina007 (talk) 15:36, 16 November 2019 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus. Relisting comment: The last resist before action is taken
 * Keep. Most quality RS appears to be in French and not English. This says he was awarded the Ordre des Arts et des Lettres which is a major achievement. Any WP:BEFORE done only in English is not convincing, and likely the best RS on this subject is in French or maybe even Hebrew.4meter4 (talk) 02:14, 21 November 2019 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,  NNADI GOOD LUCK  ( Talk &#124; Contribs ) 11:26, 21 November 2019 (UTC)


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