Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Aviva (musician)


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The result was delete.  Sandstein  11:51, 16 January 2020 (UTC)

Aviva (musician)

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While this individual has racked up lots of streams of their music and opened tours for notable musicians, they have very little coverage on the internet. I searched and could not find any reliable sources (I found a few that were questionable). Seems to be a case of WP:TOOSOON. Andise1 (talk) 19:42, 1 January 2020 (UTC)
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 * Delete If one removes all the quotes about the subject themself from the article there is little left, and then if one removes the remaining uncited material there is nothing left? I cannot find anything in main stream or independent reliable secondary media about the subject.  I am happy to be corrected.  Has the subject ever charted anywhere?  (Note:  Not to be confused with Aviva Endean, also a musician.) Aoziwe (talk) 12:14, 2 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete Does not pass WP:GNG.-Splinemath (talk) 17:39, 4 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete per WP:TNT - over the top hagiography by fan(s), and sourcing is terrible. A gentle reminder that all musicians both collaborate and yet want to be different from every other one. Bearian (talk) 20:29, 6 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep as does have an AllMusic staff written bio here, and Forte Magazine and Orion references in the article are from printed publications that seem reliable, imv Atlantic306 (talk) 00:26, 7 January 2020 (UTC)
 * The article needs more sources than those two references. The subject has almost no other reliable coverage other than what you mentioned. Andise1 (talk) 04:34, 8 January 2020 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus. Relisting comment: An AllMusic bio by a staff writer is a strong indication of notability. There should be further discussion on the Forte and Orion references, for if these are found to be reliable sources then GNG is met.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, 78.26  (spin me / revolutions) 21:13, 8 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete for lack of significant coverage in reliable sources.NotButtigieg (talk) 11:02, 9 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Comment - have you read the re-lister's comment above? They have asked for some further discussion on the Forte and Orion references, not just a blanket additional comment that doesn't add anything to this discussion. Bookscale (talk) 12:44, 9 January 2020 (UTC)
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 * FORTE is an interview, hence primary, and seems to be shallow depth and promotional?
 * ORION is about another artist, POPPY. Aviva gets an on balance positive non trivial mention, but nothing contributing to in-depth.  Looks like Aviva got the coverage they did here because the main artist was a bit of a flop?
 * ALLMUSIC is suitable, but that is all there is?
 * or, have I missed something here? Aoziwe (talk) 13:23, 9 January 2020 (UTC)


 * Delete, Does not have significant coverage to pass WP:GNG, Alex-h (talk) 10:02, 11 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete I tried - alas, the majority of the press coverage is from small fry publications and the Orion publication (the free press paper for Chico, California) is just a passing mention on how she was better than the headliner. Oh, the Allmusic is pretty weird, just like text messaged responses. I don't even know what to consider that. WP:TOOSOON. Missvain (talk) 17:47, 11 January 2020 (UTC)


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