Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Avni Sali


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. The "keep" opinions do not bring up arguments relevant to inclusion per our policies and practices.  Sandstein  08:36, 5 February 2016 (UTC)

Avni Sali

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Non-notable doctor, failing GNG and BLP. Sources are poor and additional search turned up nothing. Delta13C (talk) 23:03, 13 January 2016 (UTC)
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 * Keep he is an owner of Swisse a notable vitamin company and he's also the plaintiff in a defamation lawsuit against the Australian Broadcasting Company.--Prisencolin (talk) 03:17, 20 January 2016 (UTC)
 * That point does not convey notability. Further, Swisse also looks to be suffering from a severe lack of reliable sources, and it should probably be considered for AfD. Delta13C (talk) 12:45, 3 February 2016 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, — UY Scuti Talk  19:14, 20 January 2016 (UTC)
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 * Delete as it seems he may not be convincingly solidly notable. Keep perhaps even though I'm not entirely certain but this seems convincing enough to keep. Notifying for familiar analysis.  SwisterTwister   talk  23:19, 25 January 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete. What is claimed as his "major" research is trivial: the first paper listed has been cited only 4 times in Google Scholar ; the second,only two times . Of all his work only 16 articles have beencited 16 times or more,which is trivial for someone in clinical medicine.  The awards are minor. Only his book on biliary surgery is a medical textbook (held in 84 libraries) ; "Guide to evidence-based integrative and complementary medicine" is apparently a popular work, for it is held in almost no medical library.  That one textbook isn't enough for academic notability, and there is nothing else substantial.    His Graduate School ofI ntegrative Medicine lasted from 1992 to 2009, and was not located in a medical or comprehensive university but in a technical college.  It was succeeded by his National Institute of Integrative Medicine, which is not a National body like the parts of the NIH in the US, but a private medical practice.  As for other notability, the claim to public influence is based only on a web site for what is now a minor charity, but I can't find the page on it.
 * I note some apparent promotion/bias:  The article reports on libel suit against those criticizing his research, but doesn't link to the published criticism.   DGG ( talk ) 02:42, 26 January 2016 (UTC)


 * Keep I work with Avni Sali at NIIM. This article does not list many of his most notable accomplishments (eg he was Head of the Department of Surgery at Heidelberg Hospital, he was an NHMRC Fellow, he was on a number of government advisory committees, he published hundreds of research articles in peer-reviewed journals since the 70s, he was a regular author in newspaper publications such as Australian Doctor and Melbourne Review, lots of media activity in the 80s etc. etc. I can organise to have it updated and properly referenced over the next month or so? (what is the timeline for decisions re deletion?) Thanks. Surgikill   talk  05:46, 27 January 2016 (UTC)
 * Soon . It's high quality sources about the man we need, not a list of his achievements. --Malcolmxl5 (talk) 01:06, 28 January 2016 (UTC)
 * . OK thanks - a lot of his work was pre-internet so we will possibly need to trawl through newspaper archives, journals etc but should be able to arrange this--Surgikill (talk) 00:04, 30 January 2016 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, &mdash; Coffee //  have a cup  //  beans  // 16:11, 28 January 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete. His citation numbers in Google scholar are not high enough to convince me of a pass of WP:PROF and I am also not convinced that the awards are significant. —David Eppstein (talk) 21:16, 2 February 2016 (UTC)


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