Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Awards and nominations for Dreamgirls (film)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.  

The result was no consensus, defaulting to keep. Can&#39;t sleep, clown will eat me 16:48, 26 January 2007 (UTC)

Awards and nominations for Dreamgirls (film)

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No other movie has something like this. Any awards can be added to the main article, like every other movie. Plasma Twa 2 05:42, 19 January 2007 (UTC)
 * This AfD nomination was incomplete. It is listed now. DumbBOT 14:55, 19 January 2007 (UTC)


 * Delete as listcruft. Anything of note should be moved to Dreamgirls (film) if it's not already there.  The Rambling Man 15:26, 19 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete per Rambling Man. NMajdan &bull;talk 20:40, 19 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Strong keep. Contrary to the nominator's perception, there are other movies that have done this. This was done because Brokeback Mountain (film) did the same thing (see Critical reception of Brokeback Mountain). Dreamgirls (film) is already over the 32kb "limit", so something had to break out someplace. A website with articles such as Cultural impact of Star Wars, Philosophy and religion in Star Wars, and Star Wars opening crawl looks a little hypocritical nominating one sub-list of awards for deletion. --FuriousFreddy 22:50, 19 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Keep I don't see the problem here. It's very common for large articles to split off sections into subarticles. Provided the information is verifiable and the awards are notable, this seems to me to be a good idea for organizing movie articles that are growing too large. Dugwiki 23:51, 19 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Keep. It might be a good idea to move the page and retool the information to be Critical reception of Dreamgirls, but even as it is, it's a perfectly normal split-off from the main article per WP:SS. This is how things are supposed to work. — BrianSmithson 01:32, 20 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Keep per FuriousFreddy. The statement that no other movie has something like this directly contradicts reality. CanadianCaesar Et tu, Brute? 03:14, 20 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Update: the fact that this has received the most Oscar nominations this year further increases the notability of the film's reception. CanadianCaesar Et tu, Brute? 17:33, 23 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Comment You completely missed the point. Wikipedia is not here to provide a database of records or lists of statistics like the Census Bureau or the Elias Bureau of Sports Statistics, especially when I as I have shown below they are readily available elsewhere at trustworthy sources. Quadzilla99 18:49, 23 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Comment then move the page to Critical reception of Dreamgirls and expand to include all forms of criticism. Bada-bing, bada-boom, we're all happy. — BrianSmithson 22:30, 23 January 2007 (UTC)


 * Keep per CanadianCaesar --Infrangible 04:17, 20 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete - this is no movie database but a place to store relevant informations on the articles. Some sentences to the most relevant awards should be enough. Otherwise we may end up in storing quotes from any single visitor, because it may be of partial interest for single individuals. --192.109.246.5 15:41, 23 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Very Strong Delete all that has to be done to provide a list of the awards for the film is insert this link: Quadzilla99 18:32, 23 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Strong Delete per Quadzilla99. Harvey100 18:35, 23 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Strong Keep Per Furious Freddy. Separating the info into daughter articles helps the readability of the main article. That's what we are supposed to do! There is absulutely nothing wrong with this. And while WP is not a database, its also not a paper encyclopedia. The info here is comprehensive, not trivial. Oran e  ( talk  &bull;  cont. ) 23:45, 23 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Comment I'm going to try to play devil's advocate here, and re-integrate the awards list into the main article (which will also require me to cut down the rest of the article content as well) --FuriousFreddy 01:08, 24 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Done. How does Dreamgirls (film) look to everyone now? - FuriousFreddy 02:20, 24 January 2007 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.