Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Awedis (quarterly)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   keep. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 15:20, 6 September 2013 (UTC)

Awedis (quarterly)

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As I pointed in the (creator-removed) prod nom, there is no indication of notability for this magazine/website. Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus&#124; reply here 07:20, 27 August 2013 (UTC)
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Keep This is not merely a 'local magazine'. First of all, there are many similar Armenian magazines: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Armenian-language_newspapers Are all of them not notable? Similarly, there are articles on other national minority magazines in Poland, like "Midrasz". Secondly, it is an important institution of the Armenian Diaspora worldwide, the only one informing on the life of one of the oldest Armenian communities in the world - the Polish Armenian community. Last but not least - it distinguishes from all other Armenian magazines with the prize for the best Armenian diaspora magazine in the world, as described in the article. Scio PL (talk) 17:35, 27 August 2013 (UTC)
 * First, Other stuff exists is not a valid argument; that other stuff may either be eligible for deletion too, or is better. Second, that's a nice claim for importance - now source it to verifiable, reliable sources rather than your post. Third, governments give a lot of awards, not all of them matter, so what would make this one significant? See Notability (Awards) for some hints. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus&#124; reply here 04:02, 28 August 2013 (UTC)
 * Keep, seems to have been recognized with an Award for For Notable Contribution to the Preservation of the Armenian Identity, Printed Media category from the Diaspora Media Contest as declared by the Armenian Ministry of Diaspora. &mdash; Cirt (talk) 03:43, 28 August 2013 (UTC)
 * As I noted above: so what? Is this award significant? Has the award or the award ceremony received any significant coverage? --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus&#124; reply here 04:02, 28 August 2013 (UTC)
 * Keep Some additional context about this journal, who publishes it, who funds it, can be found here (last paragraph). Additional source Given the small size of the Armenia Polish enclave (though very old) we shouldn't expect to find much in English, and probably not much in Polish either (something this journal is trying to fix). It seems to be an important journal, funded by the Polish government "to educate the Polish public about the role of the Armenians in Poland". -- Green Cardamom (talk) 06:13, 28 August 2013 (UTC)
 * I agree it's a worthwhile initiative, but the last time I check we have a policy on Notability, not Worthiness of the subject. (On a side note, that article doesn't have a page on pl wiki, where I'd assume it would also be quickly deleted). --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus&#124; reply here 16:54, 28 August 2013 (UTC)
 * Actually the first paragraph of WP:NOTE says: "Article and list topics must be notable, or "worthy of notice"". It is absolutely our job to determine the worthiness of something to be included on Wikipedia. This is a classic case of a little known, little sourced topic that deserves attention; the notability guidelines allow for little known, little sourced but worthy topics to be included, so long as there is consensus of the worthiness. -- Green Cardamom (talk) 14:39, 30 August 2013 (UTC)
 * First, I have added the links provided by Green Cardamom to the article. Second, yes, the award is very significant. The Armenian Diaspora worldwide publishes dozens of magazines and newspapers, but only this very one was distinguished in the Ministry of Diaspora contest. It is also significant, that it is the ONLY ONE Armenian bilingual magazine in Poland, the country which is famous for its old, distinguished Armenian community. Third, there is no article on Awedis in Polish wiki, because I have not created one yet, but I will do it soon. And I am convinced that it will not be deleted - my experience says so, I am the editor of Polish Wiki since 2006. And last but not least - I beg you pardon Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus, but is it only my impression that you seems to be strangely zealous in your attempt to delete this article? Scio PL (talk) 22:37, 28 August 2013 (UTC)
 * Well, you seem to be strangely zealous in your attempt to have it kept, but I am not holding it against you :) --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus&#124; reply here 15:53, 29 August 2013 (UTC)
 * Well, my motivation, unlike yours, is quite natural, as I created the article. Scio PL (talk) 18:44, 29 August 2013 (UTC)
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