Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Ayana Rengiil


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete as the sources found do not demonstrate notability under guidelines. Barkeep49 (talk) 20:02, 1 March 2023 (UTC)

Ayana Rengiil

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Fails WP:GNG and WP:NTENNIS. Sportsfan 1234 (talk) 00:28, 7 February 2023 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Sportspeople, Tennis,  and Oceania. Sportsfan 1234 (talk) 00:28, 7 February 2023 (UTC)
 * Keep - I've expanded the article with material from local sources, and it should meet GNG now. This material wasn't hard to find, and I'm surprised the nominator went straight for deletion rather than improvement.--IdiotSavant (talk) 01:57, 7 February 2023 (UTC)
 * None of the sources you added come even close to meeting WP:GNG, yet alone WP:NTENNIS.
 * 1) Mentions the subject once in the ENTIRE article, clear fail of WP:SIGCOV.
 * 2) the subject is mentioned twice, and the article is not about the subject. Clear fail of GNG.
 * 3) same as #2, which says the subject graduated with a degree, nothing else. Another clear fail of GNG.
 * 4) This is a report written by the subject and not independent of her. Therefore it is another fails of WP:GNG. Sportsfan 1234 (talk) 04:15, 7 February 2023 (UTC)
 * I note you overlook the PlatformSports article, which is entirely about her.--IdiotSavant (talk) 04:46, 7 February 2023 (UTC)
 * It doesn't seem like an independent source, would you agree? CT55555  (talk) 05:01, 7 February 2023 (UTC)

Avilich (talk) 15:08, 7 February 2023 (UTC) Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 01:13, 14 February 2023 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Women-related deletion discussions. DaffodilOcean (talk) 03:47, 7 February 2023 (UTC)
 * Keep. Argument made by IdiotSavant above is convincing. CT55555 (talk) 03:55, 7 February 2023 (UTC)
 * Please review my GNG analysis of the sources in the article. All four sources added are clear fails of WP:GNG. @CT55555 Sportsfan 1234 (talk) 04:16, 7 February 2023 (UTC)
 * Number 2 mentions the subject seven times and number 3 is about her and one other person only. So I don't assess the sources the same way, but I do think that it's a weaker pass than I first assessed. Seems like a weak WP:BASIC pass perhaps?  CT55555  (talk) 04:30, 7 February 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete The available coverage is totally trivial, mostly of a scholarship grant and graduation, with little to nothing of an actual tennis career. Below is a source assessment table based on this revision
 *  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 03:08, 21 February 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete. Number 2 lacks independence/secondariness -- most of it is repeating what Roki (her cousin) "felt" or "thought" or "decided", and at the end the author writes "Here's to you Roki! Keep going! We are all rooting for you!" which clearly eliminates it as an independent source (making it at best an opinion column, which can't be used for BLPs). I also cannot find any editorial info on IslandTimes Palau, so there is no way to assess whether it is RS or whether any of its staff are related to Rengiil (the above source indicates some are). The third source is very clearly a PR announcement from the PNSB program ("PNSB is proud to welcome home..." plus contact info at the bottom) and so also fails GNG (not that it was SIGCOV anyway). JoelleJay (talk) 21:08, 14 February 2023 (UTC)
 *  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.


 * Delete - Avilich, JoelleJay and Sportsfan have all assessed the sources comprehensively and I agree with the points made; they are insufficient for GNG. Spiderone (Talk to Spider) 09:50, 21 February 2023 (UTC)


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