Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Ayi Jihu


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was No consensus defaults to keep. Beeblebrox (talk) 05:45, 19 January 2010 (UTC)

Ayi Jihu

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Completely unsourced. I'll admit that based on article's self-assertion, subject is notable, but while there are many web pages mentioning her, I can't find a single news article about her in Google News, suggesting the person isn't as notable as claimed. Delete. --Nlu (talk) 14:00, 4 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions.  -- • Gene93k (talk) 15:26, 4 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Neutral "I can't find a single news article about her in Google News" ... i.e. once again the nominator couldn't be bothered to search in Chinese despite speaking it just fine.


 * Anyway I restubbed the article and added some sources to it, but they don't really convince me that she passes WP:MUSIC. They discuss her childhood in depth (one goes on for about four thousand words), but have very little to say about her career because there's simply not that much to say --- she's signed to a minor label, released one album, performed at a city festival, and has vague plans of an "international tour". Formally speaking, you might argue (I'd personally disagree, but it's a reasonable argument) that she passes the "non-trivial coverage in reliable sources" requirement of WP:N. cab (talk) 03:07, 5 January 2010 (UTC)
 * At the time that I nominated it, it had no Chinese characters. I couldn't search in Chinese very well if I didn't know what Chinese characters were used for her name.  --Nlu (talk) 05:16, 5 January 2010 (UTC)


 * Even if the name's in the article, you don't bother. And you think I know the Chinese name of every girl in Sichuan off the top of my head? Her name is on her website. You'd know her Chinese name too if you were in the habit of doing the most basic level of due diligence on the articles you AfD. This is a repeated failure on your part, and not just in the past few weeks either. cab (talk) 06:08, 5 January 2010 (UTC)

Much ado
It's no worse than thousands of other articles on "singers", "actors" and "artists" that I've encountered during my brief editing stint. Maybe it's a bit early in her career for coverage, but other than that I don't see any issues.WQUlrich (talk) 23:07, 8 January 2010 (UTC)  Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Timotheus Canens (talk) 01:38, 11 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so consensus may be reached.


 * Keep There are significant news coverage, like a BBC China interview here(Chinese). And this interview mainly talks about her life in UK and as a musician - not her childhood. A handful of other news can be found too(albeit all Chinese ones). Blodance (talk) 03:28, 11 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Delete Pretty girl gets minor interview in regional ethnic magazine? Has she actually sold any records? --Chuunen Baka (talk) 11:35, 13 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Sorry? Is BBC China a "regional ethnic magazine"? Blodance (talk) 14:00, 13 January 2010 (UTC)


 * Delete The sources tell us that she has been planning a tour, and that this is interesting because she is Chinese and is touring in Europe. That is really what it amounts to. Whether the coverage is in a "regional ethnic magazine" or not, that is not substantial coverage. As for WQUlrich's "It's no worse than thousands of other articles", this is irrelevant: the existence of poor articles does not justify the existence of another poor article: see Other stuff exists. WQUlrich also goes on to say "MMaybe it's a bit early in her career for coverage, but other than that I don't see any issues." Well, if so then that is the issue: if there is not much coverage now then she is not yet notable, whether she may become notable in the future or not. We don't have articles based on speculation about what may happen in the future: see WP:CRYSTAL. Nowhere near notable, either by the General notability guideline or by Notability (music). JamesBWatson (talk) 16:25, 13 January 2010 (UTC)
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