Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Azakhana Kalan Sirsi


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The result was delete. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 06:00, 20 October 2016 (UTC)

Azakhana Kalan Sirsi

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In principle, I could have prodded this, since the article is incomprehensible (borderline gibberish), and I could not find any reliable sources describing the subject. However, I assume that the organization (or building?) might be notable, and may be someone knowledgeable about Indian topics may find some sources - or confirm it is nonsense. Ymblanter (talk) 07:37, 12 October 2016 (UTC)
 * It appears that "azakhana" is a synonym of "hussainiya". 86.17.222.157 (talk) 08:57, 12 October 2016 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of History-related deletion discussions. Coolabahapple (talk) 16:16, 12 October 2016 (UTC)
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 * Delete. Pretty much everything online (for example, this) sources back to this site, which is privately operated, has no editorial control, and is not a reliable source for Wikipedia. In any case, this is indeed a building (a type of religious congregation hall, separate from a mosque), but I don't think there's any real likelihood of it being a notable one. The associated mosque, Khana-e-haq, has no article, and I'm not confident that sources exist to support one. Taking the non-RS site on face value, the founder of this hussainiya (and the aforementioned mosque) is Syed Hasan Arif Naqvi, who also doesn't appear to be notable (and whose impact appears to be strictly local). I can find no reliable sources for the claim that this is the oldest (or even one of the oldest) imambara in India. It is possible, as is sometimes the case with Indian topics, that the necessary sources are merely not easily available electronically, or in English. But at this point, I think the burden of proof is on advocates of retention to provide sources that indicate notability, and to ensure their reliability and independence (ideally, sources with authorship outside of Sirsi's Naqvi family). Squeamish Ossifrage (talk) 16:56, 12 October 2016 (UTC)


 * Delete: Fails WP:GNG. Could not find a single reliable source for this thing (tried Gnews, Gbooks, JSTOR, WP:INDAFD search engine). What is "AH", in "734 AH"? Did they mean, AD? Anup   [Talk]  17:24, 12 October 2016 (UTC)
 * AH is anno Hegirae, an abbreviation for the Islamic calendar. The given year is the equivalent of 1333/34 AD. Squeamish Ossifrage (talk) 17:30, 12 October 2016 (UTC)
 * (after edit conflict) See Hijri year. 86.17.222.157 (talk) 17:33, 12 October 2016 (UTC)
 * Thank you very much, both of you!! (it's quite a bit math btw,,  ).  Anup   [Talk]  17:46, 12 October 2016 (UTC)
 * I'm a postgraduate student in mathematics at the ripe old age of ... getting on for three times the age of most postgraduate students, but I recognise when it's better to search the Internet for a look-up table rather than use a formula. 86.17.222.157 (talk) 18:25, 12 October 2016 (UTC)


 * Delete There is a definite claim of notability, but there don't seem to be independent, trusted sources confirming that claim. There are numerous religious places in India for every religion on Earth; if this one is so historic, there would be more sources (and reliable ones) confirming the claims. MezzoMezzo (talk) 03:19, 20 October 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete I've tried even the videos of regional news channels. I did find a private pr agency's videos but they are unreliable. Fails notability. Lourdes  04:38, 20 October 2016 (UTC)


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