Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Azerbaijan–Switzerland relations


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The result was   no consensus. – Juliancolton  &#124; Talk 15:59, 21 May 2009 (UTC)

Azerbaijan–Switzerland relations

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although these countries have embassies, the level of relations seems rather non notable outside competing in the same sporting competitions. Only 2 things came from a Google news search an energy "cooperation" agreement and another memo. LibStar (talk) 04:45, 14 May 2009 (UTC)


 * Keep. Google news isn't suitable to establish this. The study added is more informative. -- User:Docu 00:59, 14 May 2009
 * why not? that is the test of WP:N, there needs to be significant coverage? sounds like WP:ILIKEIT. LibStar (talk) 05:02, 14 May 2009 (UTC)


 * Delete - Fails to establish notability. Ed Fitzgerald t / c 06:42, 14 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep for established notability and verifiability. --Richard Arthur Norton (1958- ) (talk) 07:34, 14 May 2009 (UTC)
 * established notability? currently only has 1 reference. of course you are welcome to find some more that actually establish notability. LibStar (talk) 07:38, 14 May 2009 (UTC)


 * Strong Keep based on Docu's addition to the article, which is a link to a SECO article entitled "Swiss economic development cooperation with Azerbaijan". Google news is the ultimate tool in determining press coverage, and  I commend the nominator for doing the news search before the nomination.  As with a U.S. State Department release, this would not turn up in a news search, but SECO is Switzerland's State Secretariat for Economic Affairs.  Switzerland's aid to Azerbaijan is part of a program that they call "Reducing Poverty and Promoting Peace".  From the study, "Switzerland invests about CHF 2.1 billion a year to combat poverty and promote economic development in countries of the developing world and Eastern Europe."  A couple of kudos going out here-- kudos to LibStar for looking for news sources, kudos to Docu for locating and posting a valuable link.  Mandsford (talk) 13:33, 14 May 2009 (UTC)
 * CHF 2.1 billion a year, but what share to Azerbaijan, I ask as many of the richest countries give substantial aid but how much they give to individual countries is significant here. LibStar (talk) 14:03, 14 May 2009 (UTC)


 * Delete No independent coverage of the article topic as stated by the title. The SECO study is a primary source and thus fails WP:RS. -- Blue Squadron  Raven  15:36, 14 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete Where the main ref is something which basically says the other country needs help, that is insufficient to establish notability of internationsl relations between the two countries at all. Note clearly the list of countries at  which would allow the cite to be used for more than two dozen countries CH wishes to aid. Collect (talk) 16:30, 14 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep Article makes credible claim of notability in article. Additional reliable and verifiable sources are available to expand on content already in article. Alansohn (talk) 19:37, 14 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Redirect to Foreign relations of Azerbaijan which now holds the content. Aymatth2 (talk) 17:16, 15 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Of course, it's also part of the Foreign relations of Switzerland... after looking at the improved versions of the foreign relations articles (which merge content of the Groubani articles into a concise form), I can see where they might be an adequate replacement for many of these.  Mandsford (talk) 15:18, 16 May 2009 (UTC)


 * Keep. A google news search checking "all dates" throws up a number of sources. A lot of them are just coincidence of words, but I think there's enough in there to establish notability. HJMitchell    You rang?  22:52, 18 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete, nothing much here beyond directory entries; best handled in the Foreign relations of Switzerland and of Azerbaijan articles. Stifle (talk) 11:08, 19 May 2009 (UTC)
 * I would, repsectfully, invite you to reconsider in the light of my own, ongoing, improvements. Indeed, their foreign ministers met just yesterday HJMitchell    You rang?  11:16, 19 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Now merge to the foreign relations articles. Stifle (talk) 09:39, 20 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete No reasonable secondary sources discuss this non-notable relationship. Hipocrite (talk) 04:44, 20 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete a series of summaries of protocol press releases (i.e."The junior ministers for cabbage breeding and mice training cordially expressed the two countries great and growing mutual effection and the desire for growing inter-governmental memorandums of understanding intending to express and amplify the efficaciousness of a deepening of bilateral ties."} does not a notable bilateral relationship make. There are hundreds of notable bilateral relations in the world. These two are not among them, as demonstrated by the absence of reliable independent sources that treat the relationship in any depth.Bali ultimate (talk) 17:00, 20 May 2009 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.