Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Azeztulite


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   delete. Spartaz Humbug! 05:49, 6 November 2011 (UTC)

Azeztulite

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Neologism/pseudoscientific mumbo jumbo that doesn't appear to have any actual sources to support the claims it makes. — Ryulong ( 竜龙 ) 10:16, 28 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Also stubbifying doesn't help it at all.— Ryulong ( 竜龙 ) 10:47, 28 October 2011 (UTC)


 * Delete and possibly merge whatever useful information was in there.--Atlan (talk) 12:51, 28 October 2011 (UTC)


 * Keep, with enormous regret. There are print sources discussing it in the field of alternative medicine, such as Stones of the New Consciousness, 101 Power Crystals and The Encyclopedia of Crystals. This sort of nonsense doesn't belong in the Quartz article, so an article devoted to Azeztulite is, unfortunately, necessary. Yunshui 雲水 13:27, 28 October 2011 (UTC) *cringing in horror at his own !vote*
 * You may not have to have your wikigland shrivel away due to the fact that all of those publications are new age bullshit books that couldn't possibly be reliable sources. :P— Ryulong ( 竜龙 ) 18:33, 28 October 2011 (UTC)
 * There are references to this stuff in books published by more reputable publishers - Hachette and David & Charles have both cashed in on the hippy dollar - but nothing I'd call in-depth. I'm quite glad to see this AfD going against me... Yunshui 雲水 20:32, 28 October 2011 (UTC)


 * Delete/merge  The fact that snake oil people gave quartz this different name can be covered (as such) in two sentences in the Quartz article. Good little piece of info (snake oil warning) that is not enough for an article.  North8000 (talk) 14:01, 28 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Medicine-related deletion discussions.  • Gene93k (talk) 14:24, 28 October 2011 (UTC)


 * Delete - as it stands, the article is far too mired in non-neutral wording, even as a stub. It would require a complete rewrite, and sufficient new material to move it out of the "stub" stage, before it would meet WP:GNG. Had I come across this article in a WP:CVU or WP:NPP sweep, I probably would have put it up for speedy deletion as an attack page. --Alan the Roving Ambassador (User:N5iln) (talk) 15:37, 28 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Delete/merge  per North8000 8.14.165.3 (talk) 16:33, 28 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Delete Article needs deletion subject only used in crystal healing, metaphysical names for minerals do not belong on Wiki. If they do, there are hundreds more to be added. A major acceptable rewrite was attempted by (BLACKcrow7) but was deleted and it comes back to the UNWiki article again. In light of the difficulty to fix this article or add anything besides the POV of a commercial website advertising mineral dealers, there is no rewrite possible. Zoomedia9 (talk) 18:27, 28 October 2011 (UTC)
 * — Zoomedia9 (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic. — Ryulong  ( 竜龙 ) 20:59, 28 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Delete Not enough substance to merge. All attempts to rewrite are reverted to what it is now or close to this scam/con article, non NPOV. Heated Controversy over including other sources, like crystal healing books ( mentioned above by User: Yunshuior,)  would be helpful in a sense but even Documented trademark info, history or origin of the name is not "allowed" with blocking of new additions so rewriting this article it is NOT an option. BLACKcrow7 (talk) 19:50, 28 October 2011 (UTC)
 * — BLACKcrow7 (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic. — Ryulong  ( 竜龙 ) 20:18, 28 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Delete WP:ATTACK page no substance or merit to it. 68.106.218.221 (talk) 22:18, 28 October 2011 (UTC)
 * — 68.106.218.221 (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic. — Ryulong  ( 竜龙 ) 22:25, 28 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Please see this discussion regarding the ivotes by 68.106.218.221 and Zoomedia9 above. Vsmith (talk) 02:52, 29 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Merge and redirect - Of course the POV language needs to be toned down in the process. Carrite (talk) 02:16, 29 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Delete - not much worth merging, but perhaps a redirect to either charmstone or crystal healing. Seems it's simply a commercial term invented to sell milky quartz at inflated prices to the gullible. Not notable by itself and lacking reliable soures. Vsmith (talk) 02:52, 29 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Merge and redirect to Quartz or Crystal healing. This made-up name is not a topic, it's an aspect of another topic. Binksternet (talk) 07:01, 29 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Delete No reliable sources discuss this in any manner supporting WP:GNG—it is clearly not a notable topic in its own right. While it might be replaced by a redirect, it's hard to see where, and the target should really mention the topic if such a redirect were used. Just mentioning the topic is to give it an undue importance unless someone finds suitable sources to write an article on commonly available products with made-up names that sell for inflated prices. Johnuniq (talk) 07:35, 29 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Merge and redirect to Quartz. Yes, the topic is not independently notable, but Wikipedia ought to provide some information about this scam as a public service. Right now a Google search for "Azeztulite" provides as the first result the Wikipedia article that warns about the scam, followed by a bunch of faith-healing and forum stuff.  Sandstein   07:18, 5 November 2011 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.