Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Azhagu Muthu Kone


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The result was   delete. It's entirely possible the individual is notable, but the consensus here is that there is insufficient coverage available, in any language, to demonstrate that notability and produce a verifiable article. ~ mazca  talk 14:16, 14 May 2013 (UTC)

Azhagu Muthu Kone

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Aside from this story from 2012 in The Hindu, which records a seemingly politicised documentary about Kone and acknowledges that he is poorly-recorded in history, I can find no reliable sources for him using GBooks, GScholar or JSTOR. I have tried some alternate transliterations and a couple of names that one unreliable source mentions. He appears to fail WP:GNG. - Sitush (talk) 20:10, 27 April 2013 (UTC) 
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 * Delete. I'm not even sure if this person actually existed. MezzoMezzo (talk) 10:04, 6 May 2013 (UTC)
 * Keep He has been the subject of a documentary. Just because western scholars have largely ignored him does not mean we should perpetuate this maginzalization of people in the history of India.John Pack Lambert (talk) 15:29, 10 May 2013 (UTC)
 * Who mentioned western scholars? That is not what the source says and I certainly didn't mention them. Some of us are capable of searching a little wider than the output of, say, western university presses, and asking questions of people "on the ground".
 * The documentary appears never to have been released following the "launch" and it seems to have been produced by a politician who seems to be admitting there is little known about the guy.
 * The launch was tied to a more significant political cause, ie: enhancing Kone's alleged community's claim under India's positive discrimination legislation
 * From the sound of things, it is not really a documentary anyway but rather a cobbled-up piece of untitled film of indeterminate length that is based on some sort of legend. Nothing wrong with articles about legends if the provenance of the sources is ok, of course, but clearly it is not here.
 * One documentary does not make for substantial independent coverage, and given that it is almost certainly mostly fictionalised, surely it would not suffice as a source in its own right
 * You may wish to review Talk:Yadav, Talk:Ahir, Talk:Abhira tribe and Talk:Yadava for examples of the numerous mythologised claims made by the community in question, few of which have proven to comply with our policies and guidelines. - Sitush (talk) 17:10, 10 May 2013 (UTC)
 * Question Could you give a link to this documentary? Transcendence (talk) 23:01, 10 May 2013 (UTC)
 * No, sorry. The title is unknown and my attempts to find out more via people in India have hit a brick wall. One person whom I have not yet asked is . I'm not at liberty to explain the circumstances but I believe that he is still active in the wider WP arena and I know just how fantastically co-operative he can be. I'll drop him an email but I suspect this might be outside his linguistic sphere. Most of those whom I have asked are not involved with WP at all. You'll just have to take my word for that, sorry. - Sitush (talk) 00:53, 11 May 2013 (UTC)


 * Delete Unable to find significant coverage. I only found one book on this person. If someone could point out more sources, please do. Transcendence (talk) 23:01, 10 May 2013 (UTC)
 * You found a book? What is it? Owt is better than nowt, WP:RS permitting. - Sitush (talk) 00:53, 11 May 2013 (UTC)
 * Actually I'm not sure if it's really a book or just a rehash of Wikipedia content. In anycase, here is the link: http://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/veeran-azhagu-muthu-kone-jesse-russel/1114428681 Transcendence (talk) 18:25, 13 May 2013 (UTC)
 * Aye, that is a mirror. - Sitush (talk) 18:45, 13 May 2013 (UTC)
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