Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Azov War (1501–1502)


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The result was speedy keep. Nomination withdrawn. (non-admin closure) ‎__EXPECTED_UNCONNECTED_PAGE__ Respublik (talk) 09:02, 16 July 2023 (UTC) AfDs for this article:

Azov War (1501-1502)

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The article does not apepar to reach notability guidelines as searching the articles name results in only the wikipedia page and websites that simply copy from wikipedia, as well as a few websites unrelated to the article's subject. The article was also created by a user who has been blocked for being a sockpuppet of the user Ea-Nasir, in case that information helps. Withdrawn by nominator as sources have been found Gaismagorm (talk) 23:08, 11 July 2023 (UTC) The references are to a book in Russian, which I cannot obtain or read even if I could get my hands on it. But the content of the paragraph largely matches the content of this article that was submitted for deletion. I would tend to assume good faith and trust that the citations aren't made up, but unless someone wants to verify it once and for all, I land on the side of keeping the article. RecycledPixels (talk) 00:10, 12 July 2023 (UTC)
 * Keep. Expand, don't delete.   The Russian Wikipedia article  for Meñli I Giray, who was the Crimean Khan, has the following paragraph (via Google translate):"In the winter of 1501-1502, Sheikh-Ahmed, the khan of the Great Horde, began to prepare for a new campaign against the Crimean Khanate . Mengli Giray, warned of the impending invasion, ordered the mobilization of the entire male population over 15 years old [24] . Khan of the Great Horde, Sheikh-Ahmed, at the confluence of the Pine River into the Don, joined with the army of his elder brother Seyid-Ahmed [24] . The brothers built a fortification here, preparing to repel the attack of the Crimean Khan. However, the khans soon quarreled, and Seid-Ahmed with his detachments retreated to Astrakhan [24] . Ottoman Sultan Bayezid IIinvited the Khan of the Great Horde to migrate to the Southern Bug, but the Turkish ambassador was captured and killed by the subjects of the Khan [25]."
 * i tried to search up the references and didnt get any books. the first one did give me a russian wikipedia article. is it possible for you to provide a link for the book (using google books or something) Gaismagorm (talk) 00:20, 12 July 2023 (UTC)
 * unless of course you are talking about the russian wikipedia article, however i do still feel that the english wikipedia article needs some much better references. Gaismagorm (talk) 00:23, 12 July 2023 (UTC)
 * It's references #24 and #25 in the Russian Wikipedia article I linked. Повелители двух материков RecycledPixels (talk) 04:43, 12 July 2023 (UTC)
 * As it turns out, if you search that title on some of the ebook piracy sites, there are PDFs available for download, and the text can be selected and pasted into Google translate without much effort. Pages 74-77 of Volume 1.  RecycledPixels (talk) 05:00, 12 July 2023 (UTC)
 * keep. ah, thanks for the information. well in that case, we should keep the article Gaismagorm (talk) 17:35, 12 July 2023 (UTC)
 * one question i do have is who Beslan (listed in the commanders and leaders section of the infobox) is Gaismagorm (talk) 17:42, 12 July 2023 (UTC)


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 * Comment Gaismagorm, since you as the nominator have changed your mind, I encourage you to withdraw this nomination in accordance with WP:WDAFD. Aintabli (talk) 14:26, 13 July 2023 (UTC)
 * if i did it wrong, please tell me Gaismagorm (talk) 17:26, 13 July 2023 (UTC)
 * also the thing at the bottom was a previous attempt at withdrawing, i think i got it to work at the top Gaismagorm (talk) 17:27, 13 July 2023 (UTC)


 * withdrawn by nominator as sources have been found. Gaismagorm (talk) Gaismagorm (talk) 17:24, 13 July 2023 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.