Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Aztlan Underground


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep.  Sandstein  17:21, 27 March 2018 (UTC)

Aztlan Underground

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Fails WP:GNG and WP:MUSICBIO. Three album entries at AllMusic and none have reviews. Same at Reverb Nation. Walter Görlitz (talk) 00:20, 20 March 2018 (UTC)


 * Delete NN, Run of the mill band article. Bringers of Darkness. Jjjjjjdddddd (talk) 04:30, 20 March 2018 (UTC).
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions. Coolabahapple (talk) 05:26, 20 March 2018 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of California-related deletion discussions.  MT Train Talk 05:27, 20 March 2018 (UTC)


 * (see comments below). ---  DOOMSDAYER 520 (Talk&#124;Contribs) 14:41, 20 March 2018 (UTC)
 * Reluctantly changing vote to Weak keep. The sources supporting notability still barely, if at all, meet WP:ARTIST. For instance, a few of Michig's sources quote duplicated text, some others are mere mentions in lists, and so on. As to duffbeerforme's sources: The pdf file from learcenter is not accessible, the website itself presumed MIA; another is a duplicate of Michig's, the only truly valueable mention in the media I can see; the discog list is totally unimportant; and The Village Voice article is offline. No, the bits do not "add up" but, still, the benefit of the doubt is given for this is a band whose modest claim to fame was before the internets conquered the world. -The Gnome (talk) 16:14, 20 March 2018 (UTC)
 * Keep. Plenty of coverage from a wide range of sources, e.g., ,, , , , , , , , , . Some of the coverage here is brief, but enough isn't. --Michig (talk) 18:09, 20 March 2018 (UTC)
 * Comment - I detected most of Michig's sources during my own search and would argue that, except for the chapter in It's Not About a Salary, the coverage generally consists of name-drops of this band as an example band within the music scene that is actually being discussed in the respective text. I would not consider this to be significant coverage of the band itself, but they could be a contender for WP inclusion based on these several brief mentions in books. Therefore I have changed my original vote above to "Weak Delete". ---  DOOMSDAYER 520 (Talk&#124;Contribs) 18:46, 20 March 2018 (UTC)


 * Keep. Their early years are not the best years for online coverage but there is more than above. They are often name checked as an example of mexican rap.
 * The Encyclopedia of Native Music above (Michigs first) is good
 * This is a good source.
 * This (warning pdf) essay from American Quarterly gives them decent coverage, paints them as significant.
 * Those three alone seem good enough for GNG
 * this might be OK
 * Writes a bit about them in his review of some compilations including Sociedad=Suciedad.
 * D3 Entertainment looks like it could be considered an important label for WP:MUSIC.
 * All the bits add up. duffbeerforme (talk) 11:48, 21 March 2018 (UTC)
 * All the bits add up. duffbeerforme (talk) 11:48, 21 March 2018 (UTC)


 * Keep but Improve (Changed Vote) - Michig and Duff have convinced me to change my vote. There is evidence that the band gained notability in their early years, but the article needs to be improved to reflect that. In fact, if the result of this AfD is to keep, the admin can contact my talk page and I will improve the article with the sources found in this debate. ---  DOOMSDAYER 520 (Talk&#124;Contribs) 14:12, 21 March 2018 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.