Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/B.C. Williamson (2nd nomination)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   delete. per WP:SNOW JForget  22:25, 8 September 2009 (UTC)

B.C. Williamson
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Non-notable. Newly created fictional musician that is trying to use Wikipedia to increase its credibility. noq (talk) 16:38, 5 September 2009 (UTC)


 * I am not sure if I am allowed to debate here, but noq, B.C. Williamson does not intend to use Wikipedia to increase "his" credibility. The article plainly states that he is not real, and the aim of the article is to merely inform other users on B.C. Williamson, the same as any other article on Wikipedia Coolguy1793 (talk) 16:57, 5 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Comment You are OK to make a case here. On the articles talk page you stated that you needed a Wikipedia entry to maintain interest in the fictional musician. That seems to me like using Wikipedia to establish credibility. noq (talk) 18:31, 5 September 2009 (UTC)


 * Delete - per nom. No third party coverage.  The extent of B.C.'s notability extends to a mere 240 plays on Last.fm and, as far as I can tell, one EP on iTunes (which has only just been released in the past few hours).  ∙  AJCham  talk  17:53, 5 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Speedy delete. Notability has not increased since the previous version was debated and deleted. &mdash; RHaworth 18:24, 5 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Note that the previous AfD resulted in the article being tagged . The deletion was not carried out as the criterion did not apply.  ∙  AJCham  talk  19:36, 5 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Apologies - on closer examination I see that the db and previous AfD were unconnected. ∙  AJCham  talk  19:39, 5 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete a non-notable subject. Pemberton08 (talk) 20:13, 5 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Fictional elements-related deletion discussions.  -- Cyber cobra  (talk) 00:39, 6 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Speedily delete and salt Its essentially G11 material, G4'able if the previous deletion discussion had been closed normally, violates MADEUP, fails MUSICBIO. This is precisely the sort of reason why MADEUP should be a new speedy criterion. Jclemens (talk) 00:46, 6 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. Sssoul (talk) 10:46, 6 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete - Insufficient notability. Master Runner (Talk/Contribs) 06:01, 7 September 2009 (UTC)

Notability has increased, I think- a .com website has been added, his following has increased, and 4 tracks (not one, as previously stated by someone) are now for sale on iTunes, with a 20 track album being released very soon, according to his website. Also, noq, I take back that point about using the wiki to increase his notability- I phrased it badly: I meant to say how the wiki would be used to join all knowledge of BC (be it in the real or virtual world) together in one place, for others to add to and help edit. Isnt that in the very spirit of Wikipedia? Coolguy1793 (talk) 09:45, 7 September 2009 (UTC)

I aimed to create this wiki for the same reason as anyone would create any other wiki for any other public figure- so people can search for him and learn a little about him- when interested in a public figure, I at least, give them a search on google and on Wikipedia just to find out about them. Why shouldn't B.C. Williamson's prospective new fans do so too? Because, at the moment, as you said, the only media available on B.C. Williamson is on his site himself- so why shouldn't there be a wiki article for everyone to view, and (especially if the article is biased, as you may suspect) edit it? Coolguy1793 (talk) 12:16, 7 September 2009 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.