Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/B1438 road


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   redirect. Beeblebrox (talk) 18:33, 1 August 2012 (UTC)

B1438 road

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 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Transportation-related deletion discussions.  Cliff  Smith 18:58, 24 July 2012 (UTC)

This is not a significant road. The reference to SABRE here fails WP:RS as anyone can edit the page at any time. A news search suggests the road is in fact in East Lothian, Scotland, not in Suffolk as claimed. Ritchie333  (talk)  15:42, 24 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Delete Google maps places it in Suffolk and anyone interested in what a fairly typical road in East Anglia is like could do worse than look at it in Streetview. But WP is not a roads catalogue, and I found no evidence of notability. --AJHingston (talk) 16:26, 24 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Delete - This road is frequently mistaken for a section of the B1438 on satellite navigation systems and others.  Adam Mugliston  Talk  16:59, 24 July 2012 (UTC)
 * What you need is a map. Try looking at 52.1227°N, 1.338°W on your favourite one.  Yes, I followed the hyperlink on Ufford, Suffolk.  And yes, the road number has been wrong in this article's title and contents right from the start.  It's wrong in your Google search, too.  Help is now at hand &#x21D7; for that latter, however. &#9786; Uncle G (talk) 17:03, 24 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Yes, the B1348 is in fact in East Lothian. The small section of road, about which this article is written is a section of the B1438. So, we should either delete this article or rewrite it for the correct road. Adam Mugliston  Talk  17:06, 24 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Or we could rename the article to the correct road number. Will you look at that!  Someone seems to have done exactly that.  &#9786; Uncle G (talk) 17:22, 24 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Improbable. The article is probably about B7438 with a misprint — Preceding unsigned comment added by Peterkingiron (talk • contribs) 2012-07-28 17:54:26
 * No. The article really is about the B1438.  The kind someone did fix this for you all a week ago, so that you wouldn't be all confused as to what the subject of the article even was and get lost discussing the wrong things.  Uncle G (talk) 13:17, 1 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Redirect to B roads in Zone 1 of the Great Britain numbering scheme - I believe that most B-roads are considered to be insufficently notable for stand-alone articles, but a redirect to the list is appropriate. - The Bushranger One ping only 19:14, 24 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Delete ‐ Road is not significant, if you want road details visit OpenStreetMap -- johndrinkwater (talk) 19:40, 24 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of England-related deletion discussions.  • Gene93k (talk) 19:29, 24 July 2012 (UTC)


 * Redirect to B roads in Zone 1 of the Great Britain numbering scheme, which is the normal solution for any road where the only thing to say about it is where it goes to. Chris Neville-Smith (talk) 06:59, 25 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Delete Previous discussions have shown us B roads are not notable and this is too small. Wilbysuffolk (Talk to me!) 13:24, 26 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Merge The entry in B1438 in the B-roads list article says that it is at Woodbridge, Suffolk and "Was the A12 before bypassing". This appears to be correct.  Accoring to the road-numbering system in use in GB, English and Welsh roads start with the digits 1-6 and Scottish roads with 7-9.  The newspapaer citation is accordingly probably a misprint for B7438.  A Google maps suggests that B1438 is called Ipswich Road and then Melton Road; after Melton, it becomes Yarmouth Road.  As an old line of the A12 road (England) it will be appropriate for the subject to be covered under that article.  I think I have covered roads downgraded when a bypass has been built in articles such as A38 road.  Peterkingiron (talk) 17:51, 28 July 2012 (UTC)
 * I was wrong Gmaps shows that there is a B1438 going past Cockenzie Power Station in Scotland. If kept this article needs to be renamed B1438 road (England), with the resultant redirect being converted to a dabpage with B1438 road (Scotland).  However, we may be better without either.  Peterkingiron (talk) 18:01, 28 July 2012 (UTC)
 * At User talk:Uncle G I pointed out to the nominator here that there's a whole load of 1970s stuff missing from Wikipedia, in particular the construction of the 11.5km "Ufford and Wickham Market Bypass", whatever that is. As I said there, I leave this hole in the encyclopaedia for road article writers such as you and Ritchie333 to fill. Uncle G (talk) 13:17, 1 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Yeah, it would be nice to get some road articles up to GA status, and filling out these details is one way of progressing towards that. Reason I haven't done anything yet is a combination of a) not having much post-1961 research at my disposal (maps are still in copyright after this) b) it's not somewhere I've been often and c) I'm taking a general break from editing road articles and doing other stuff on WP having banged my head against the wall at the endless bickering in things like this. (Sorry!) -- Ritchie333  (talk)  13:58, 1 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Redirect to B roads in Zone 1 of the Great Britain numbering scheme - Road may not be important enough for its own article but can always be covered in a list.  Dough 48  72  00:50, 29 July 2012 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.